@5harath appreciate all your support over the months (years?), Sharath. As a viewer, what would you like to see in video? Any examples of this that have stood out to you?

Maybe a combination of loom and periscope 🤔 Also what are your thoughts on the mobile app? Given we all live in mobile first world. I sometimes visit PH to view/upvote/comment on my phone. Thoughts? PS: It's been 2.5 yrs I'm using PH and I learned a ton from you and the community. Thanks for doing this. I'm here as a maker because of the love and support from PH community ❤️❤️❤️

@5harath 🤗🤗🤗

@feriforgacs good thinking! We actually tested a variation of this by surfacing a "subscribe to updates" button on the product page. We a/b tested 3 different variations but the engagement was very low. Less than 10% of the people that upvoted subscribed which resulted in too few a number for most makers to care. I believe there's an opportunity to achieve the goal you're articulating but we need to be thoughtful in how we can achieve this without creating noise.

@feriforgacs @rrhoover one of the things you guys can do is ask makers to give periodic 2 liner updates to their products and include those updates on the mails that you send out. It'll be super tough to segregate which updates go to whom but that can be built on the backend. Or you could just create a "updates on products" page with "products you upvoted" as a filter.

@feriforgacs @rrhoover to me "subscribe to updates" seemed too vague and generic such that I thought it was going into an email list that would never get looked at ever again.

@feriforgacs @rrhoover I'm thinking "Join the Maker [Name/product]'s Updates/beta group (to get in on the ground floor!)" with a mouseover triggered "I want in/let me in!" might garner more attention. It's much more context rich, engaging, and exciting.

@feriforgacs @rrhoover @markypc3 I think maybe upvote and "follow" could be two different ways to engage with a product. The way you follow a user, following products as well will subscribe to updates and new product releases of that product on PH. Thoughts??

@igcorreia good thoughts. We've experimented with some of these ideas already but I believe our execution was off.

@rrhoover @igcorreia there are some great ideas here

@rrhoover @igcorreia Totally agree. Plus, this should give more incentive for people to actually launch and support their product, not launch and sunset in like a month.

@kevinguebert related to this: we have this semi-hidden feature for time traveling through Product Hunt: http://producthunt.com/time-travel

@rrhoover @joshdance I'm thinking those types of cosmetic changes can be built as an extension once API is further developed. Just an assumption...

@joshdance good thinking. We haven't done this mainly to avoid people from spamming and self-promoting their own product in the recommendations. There are ways to combat that but requires a bit of thought.

@nataliad90 great suggestion. What kind of discussions would you expect to see inside something like this?

@rrhoover We would like have this: 1. Products badged as 'Station F made', so each time I use this tag or label I can see all products from 'Station F'. and start using it, testing it, providing useful feedback as a member of this community 2. People with this badge as well, so I can know what's their feedback on the product, get them to be beta testers since they are around the corner, MAYBE i can grab coffee with them later, and perhaps to pre-launch products to only these profiles, before launching on PH. 3. Discussions for 'Station F' makers around other topics, like how we started the product, what tools have been useful for us...We are doing this already but on slack and sometimes gets out of control and is hard to follow :)

@rrhoover @nataliad90 Sounds like a great idea!

@nataliad90 @rrhoover I see this all the time as there is a product hunt channel in virtually every digital community and slack group i am in. This is to simplify the noise and discuss more intimately with like minded individuals about the amazing products we find on PH. That being said, The PH platform should continue expanding in features and capabilities for users as this effort to create sub-communities only helps to boost the overall efforts and objectives of the Product Hunt team and communities. Not sure how you guys feel, just my 2 cents. Love to hear your thoughts..

@whale great suggestions! PH API – We recently updated the API to expose more functionality but you're right, we could expose more to support these use cases and others. Founder Guild – What would you look for in a group like this? I.e. what would you hope to get out of it and how might you interact with these people? Who Uses this Product – We're building something around this now. Stay tuned! ;) Who can help with this product – That's a clever idea. We're building something that touches on this but we might be able to extend our idea to support this use case. Can you give us an example of a situation where you wanted help or to pay someone for support?

@rrhoover API : 👍 Founder Guild: * Solicit experience and advise from non crappy people that aren't looking to "network" but to genuinely help each other. Well curated would be key. * Share recommendations for contractors who are not just talented, but good communicators, ethically strong, etc. Help with this product: * Who can help me implement a setup with Vero, or Segment? (Contractor or potential hire) * Who can help our team get setup with Phrasee? (contractor) * Who can teach my team more about how to use Notion to it's best effect and provide us with templates? (Consulting)

@dbouchard2 thanks for this. I like your suggestion to create rooms to communicate. We want to explore this further and expand upon Maker Spaces which isn't fully baked right now.

@merrillhefdy appreciate that idea. I'm super curious to know how you might design something like this. I.e. If you were looking for a cofounder, what information would you want to know and how would you want to connect with them?

@rrhoover Have a look at findamaker.io it's actually where I met my cofounder and I discovered this site months ago on PH :) You can see a board with a listing with partnership offers. People put there their ideas and what they are looking for (Tech guy or Marketing guy or X guy) for X equity or other options. Quite basic but efficient. It's like job offers but for partnerships between people with ideas and different skills. My guess is, emulate something like FindAMaker would do the job. Many websites are trying to do that but PH has most likely already the biggest database for a space like that. And a lot of people are actually asking for it :-) At some point I was trying to find an iOS dev cofounder and it took me months before we finally found each by pure chance on a small website. I am 100% confident if PH were doing the same thing it would have been way faster. I actually thought about this idea after seeing so many people on the Makers Chat saying they are looking for cofounders! But the way the Chat is designed at the moment doesn't easily let people connect with each other because it's almost impossible to look or find any old messages. By the way, @rrhover thank you to you and your team for PH, I've been a user for 4 or 5 years and I'm still here every single day, this is the only community where I'm involved and it's not gonna change :) Hope to help at some point, especially for the French Makers community!

@tariktech interesting idea. Our biggest worry with that is people want to discover big product launches when they happen so it might be less ideal to hide those releases for several hours.

@rrhoover - great point! How about making an option for those that want to make sure they get full 24hr visibility across the globe for an item they post? That way you can have it both ways...

@tariktech good thinking!

@ramykhuffash I have a few friends that do this too. Do you meet in person? Any ideas on how this might work online among people that aren't physically nearby?

@rrhoover We actually meet online on a video call (and have a Slack group for chatting generally). I think what would be helpful in this space would be a facilitator. Interested people sign up with times that would work for them, and the facilitator would make groups of 4-6 based on goals, current progress towards goals, time zones etc. Essentially a match making service of sorts It also counters the trend of joining huge Slack groups to find accountability and meet people with similar interests - they are impossible to keep up with

@mohitghate this idea has been suggested. The big challenge is managing quality. I have a few ideas on this. Curious how you might manage this. 🤔

@rrhoover Some of these services are more sorted than others. For example integrating crowdfunding should be a breeze but finding growth mentors and good ones at that, that's where one's subjective needs to be removed from the equation. I'd take cue from LinkedIn where a person's previous work experience and recommendations by peers work well to gauge someone's ability up front. Then there are those services like marketing which can be portrayed in simple showcase format, searchable by various parameters such as the price range, previous clients, previous work etc. The reason to build this is also to be able to later bundle some of these services. Managing quality should be an easy task as the upvote downvote system, coupled with the community reviews, peer reviews and work experience create a hard barrier to break for schemers.

@anildash @shinyee_au great point. Whenever I share "advice" I add a giant asterisk as my experience or other factors (like market timing) may not be as relevant to the recipient and what they're trying to do.