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What are your favorite no code solutions?
No code solutions are becoming more and more popular these days and the market is seemed to be overflooded with such solutions. What are your favorite ones?
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@danilov_den Its looks like everyones number one choice here is Webflow. Have you tried other website builder, before choosing Webflow as the primary one?
@bochkovaleks I wanted something with maximum freedom. I researched some other site builders (like Tilda), but they were too limited
@danilov_den Got it. But do you do the actual design in the Webflow or you do it elsewhere and then integrate to the Webflow?
@bochkovaleks I created the design in Figma, then assembled it through Webflow. After that, I corrected small details only in Webflow itself.
For Websites:
- Webflow if you wanna build websites that you can have ultimate control between responsive screen sizes hands down (will also let you learn the basic structure of HTML and css).
If you want to build no code apps, then there's:
- Bubble is powerful, but I found them quite clunky to use. (alignment and dimensions are nearly non-exsistent, at least it takes a lot of time).
- Glide is easy but not much flexibility.
- Tried Adalo recently, was really impressed by their flexibility and ease (Still need more alignment tools and reusable components though)
@thomas_lo1 Thanks for sharing this. Adalo is like Bubble, or strictly a mobile app builder?
I have a related question, what are the boundaries of no code tools? Are they based on ease of use or category? For example, if you have to copy embed codes or insert JS is that no code? Can no code exist in every category or is it mainly focused on tools like content, data or CRM management?
@fritzly That's a very good question that you are raising here. To be honest and imho there are no limits :) First were website builders, then appeared full app builders like Bubble . Then Airtable reinvented spreadsheets :)
I guess as long as it is a no-brainer and doesn't require hiring an engineer to put together or make it work and it automates certain processes - we can call it NO CODE :)
IMHO
@ivanna_wendel I like that "as long as it is a no-brainer and doesn't require hiring an engineer to put together or make it work and it automates certain processes" Creators and builders are creative and solution thinkers, which is much like engineering without understanding the language. A solid creative and set of tools can get you very far these days!
@filipminev Yes, i saw you recently here on PH. The UI is fantastic. You position Tally as alternative to Typeform?
@ivanna_wendel Thanks for the nice words, Ivanna! ☺️ Being compared to Typeform is a big compliment for us. I would say Tally is a Typeform alternative, yes - main differences are a fresh new form building experience (works like a doc) + a different business model (99% of Tally's features are available to all users for free and without limits).
Big fan of Webflow! In my experience, it has TONS more modern functionality accessible to no-code users (if you're willing to do the research to understand how) than a Wordpress + Elementor combo.
@claire_glisson A lot of folks rooting for Webflow here :) Looks like we got a winner. Have tried other website builders tho? And what about Figma?
@claire_glisson Yes, Webflow is one of the leaders in this space :) I like it too. Do you make designs and built sites yourself in it?
@bochkovaleks I've tried Wordpress + Elementor as well as your out of the box site builders (Wix, Squarespace) - Webflow is in a league of its own in my book.
I do use Figma but mostly for design + component creation - can you actually publish a functional site from Figma too?
@ivanna_wendel I wouldn't call myself a UX designer, but I get by as a bootstrapped founder who MUST play that role! I like to use existing Webflow templates and modify them for my needs. I find I usually f*ck them up in the process, lol
@claire_glisson Yeah makes sense! Yes, Figma is limited to deign only. Webflow in these terms are way better! But still designing in Figma feels more natural :)
Google Sheets/Excel ! This is still by large the most used, foundational no-code tool !
Every company is somehow a competitor of this one.
By the way I've build Sheet2SMS upon it to send texts from your spreadsheet !
@dot_louis then you should check rows.com :) makes it even easier to build automations and integrate with APIs
@dot_louis @marius_busen Nice! So Rows are in direct competition with Airtable, right? Are Rows have any substantial differences from the Airtable?
@dot_louis @bochkovaleks not in direct competition i would say... :) rows has much more of an actual spreadsheet feeling to it and makes calculations and handling of data (including json) much easier. there's some overlap for sure, but other unique features of rows like integrations to linkedin, facebook, etc.
feel free to try though, we have a free plan to play around a bit :)
@dot_louis @bochkovaleks happy to hear, feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions at any time :)
Ohh I think the combination of Webflow + Airtable + Zapier + Memberstack
I can do almost anything with these 😬🚀
@adrian_topka Yes, thats a truly great set of no code apps! How do you use Memberstack tho? Do you integrate to the Webflow?
@adrian_topka Got it. And as for the Zapier, have you tried their alternatives who give greater amount of tasks limits per month? We have quite a few apps ourselves and our community asking for a whole bunch of integrations. We initially decided to go for the Zapier, but found a great deal of alternatives. So trying to decide now.
@bochkovaleks Of course. I have played with Integromat & Integrately. Both great (integrately has a great offer now), but you have to check if they have all necessary integrations for your needs.
@bochkovaleks For my use cases, yes. But the competitors are really close now, regarding that.
Just love using Notion for building digital products. Plus, found out about Tally a few days ago & I'm glad I did. It's kinda the best form builder for me rn.
Tripetto 3.0 Just like TypeForm but open source and free,
Node-RED with low code rock your IOT world ,
IFTTT You already know,
Zapier Just Awesome,
n8n In early stage by Advanced version of IFTTT free and open source,
@new_user_310bd204d5 Wow! Thats a great list! Tripetto 3.0 is definitely a new one for me, haven't heard about it before. Thanks for sharing.
@ines_meireles Thanks for your insight. Not familiar with Landen. How is it compared to alternatives? Any prominent pros?
@bochkovaleks Landen is now named https://www.umso.com/ For me, it's very easy to use and to make a decent looking website. Their modules are pretty straight forward (you just fill in with copy and add ur images). Their pricing is also attractive if you want to test out ideas (3 sites for 29$/month). But if you're looking for tones of customisation or design options, it's a bit limited. Hope it helped!
@ines_meireles Yes, thanks for explaining how it works and thanks for sharing about this app! Great insights! We should add it to the list of zero code products.
We've also launched our API first no code platform. We are trying to still be no code with API first, we could provide the ultimate flexibility to build. Happy to chat.
@bochkovaleks Yes, longer term we'd like to be in a position where you could easily integrate different APIs w/ our automation flows without code (and a developer would have the freedom to do anything they'd like). Right now we are narrowing to more 'consumer focused' use cases - google sheets online store, simple email automation etc.
@charliejacobson Thanks for mentioning Macro, haven't seen them before. Are you already using them in your projects/ products? As for the Webflow thats without a doubt the winner today :) And for the Bubble have you tried assembling an app there? Was the process too complicated?
@thesammysworld Why not to use Webflow for all sites? How Carrd better or different from the Webflow?
Launching soon!
@thesammysworld +1 to Notion. And notionlytics.com to have the usage stats.
@thesammysworld @prilutskiy Yeah, Notion is great, no doubt! But lately a bit slow on mac. At least on my mac :)
@thesammysworld @bochkovaleks so Webflow is absolutely amazing but the one feature it lacks I'd the ability to customize your website's on mobile.
Carrd fulfills this need at an insanely low cost, and it has a much more beginner-friendly UI without sacrificing much of its customisability.
Overall, Carrd is a much more accessible platform to use while Webflow provides an experience that's delightful for developers, designers and the rest of the team to collaborate on the same platform.
@bochkovaleks Carrd is a bit faster to implement and cheaper for simple use cases. Webflow might get really costly if all you need is a simple static landing page with not much jazz.
No code tools and platforms that I use for my personal brand / website:
Content
WordPress
Training & e-courses
Mailerlite, Thinkific
Digital products
Gumroad
Physical products
I also have an online store for physical products, merchandise promoting women in technology. For that, I use threadless as my platform of choice. The beauty of using a print-on-demand solution is that not only do I not have to design the website or develop an ecommerce platform, I also don’t need to process orders or keep stock. The only thing I had to do for my store was create designs that can be printed on T-shirts, bags and accessories.
Social media
Buffer
Analytics
Google Analytics
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Would love to know if anyone has a good list of no code solutions with a pro and con analysis!
@rg97 Great idea! We can start putting it together based on all the suggestions raised in this discussion today.
@rg97 NoCode MBA has a pretty good list with the pros and cons - https://www.nocode.mba/guide
@rg97 Not sure about a list but I think @mert_aktas from User Guiding or one of his colleagues had a podcast dedicated to talking about no/low code solutions and trends.
Ohhhhh I'm a Bubble guy for sure! It's easy to pick up, easy to design and I think it's super powerful. I feel it even helped my programming a little.
@nick_hutton Some folks here say it is way too complicated. What is your experience with Bubble? You made a few apps based on their builder?
@bochkovaleks well I have put a fair amount of time into it, so I guess it depends how much you're willing to put in. I developed www.suitebooks.io with it if you want to see the power it has.
My theory was to build one thing, then with the knowledge I have, the next thing should be twice as quick and so on. So hopefully the up front time commitment pays off long-term!
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