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Would you like to have a 4-day workweek? And how would you compensate the extra day off?
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The 4-day workweek is a big debate in many countries, and research claims it boosts productivity and overall employee happiness. Would you like to work 4 days instead of 5? And if so, would you work longer days or have fewer vacation hours in return?
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Olatz Urrutia
Research suggests that a 4-day workweek can improve work-life balance, productivity, and job satisfaction for employees, so I'd be up to research it. However, I am concerned if this would affect our vacation days at all. I for one like to take 2 weeks in the summer to travel, but if it can I would love to try it.
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Olatz Urrutia
@jason_andries1 Agree! But super interesting topic. In fact there are companies in France (not sure if anywhere else) that they put it into practice. Will it be the method of the future? Do you think we will soon start testing it? At least once a month and then we'll see...
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Aaron O'Leary
I worked a 4 day work week and I'd be lying if I said I didn't love it, I did, I'll always appreciate reclaiming a day but it has to be done right, there needs to be either a strategy in place which prevents loss of productivity or just accept that a day is missing in the week and readjust expectations around that
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Martina Hackbartt
I'd love to try a 4-day workweek! And I think it wouldn't really make sense to "recover" that time with more hours throughout the week or vacation days since more time does not necessarily mean more done. I'd say companies and individuals would just need to readjust the way hours are distributed throughout the day, so as to increase efficiency without doing extra hours (to me, there is not a lot of difference in results in working 11 hours in contrast to 8, and I actually think it's detrimental!)
Matt Harbord
I have worked 4 days before and did it at 0.8 salary. It was awesome, and the salary loss was massively offset by the fact my marginal tax rate on that extra day was around 50% anyway. I mean, vacation is a funny one, it should be pro-rated down anyway to account for the fact you're only working 4 days a week. So if you used to get 25 days, you should now only get 20. That's not really trading in vacation time, it's more like you're working less so you don't "earn" as much PTO. It depends on the type of work you do, but certainly for coding, my view is that productivity doesn't scale linearly with time spent. At a guess I'd say you get 90% or more productivity in 4 days rather than 5 without cutting pay or working longer hours. A friend of mine works 5 days in 3 - to me that seems untenable; I can't imagine hour 12 on day 3 has any value to the employer at all - at that point it just seems like a charade from both the employer and employee, with neither happy. But my key point is the more senior someone is the less of their salary you're paying for them to be at the coalface, and the more you're paying them for their prior experience. Knowing how to solve a problem / what mistakes to avoid is value you can extract whether they're available 3, 4 or 5 days. Obviously the less they're in the more of a lag you have getting access to that info - but I'd happily keep a senior dev on 4 days for 90%, 3 days for 75% and 2 days for 50% of their full salary - I think I would be ahead on that deal.
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Saul Fleischman
Hate to say it, but there are parts of the world where people now, thanks to the internet and remote work, have the opportunities also available in the overfed, over-placated Western world. More work hours, not less, if we are to keep pace.
Swapratim Roy
I'd rather build multiple streams of passive income and shorten the work days to 4 instead of 5. Trading off with more working hours is a secondary choice to me but I'd prefer it over trading with vacations.
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Swapratim Roy
@jason_andries1 Absolutely. With creators economy booming around, this is a new gold rush for a lot of people at this moment.
Igor Sadkin
I would love a 4-day workweek! I'd spend the extra day staring at my computer screen pretending to work, just like I do on the other four days. But at least I'd be at home in my pajamas while doing it.
Gavin Yerxa
I'm supportive of a 4-day work week for those that want it, and feel that it maximizes their productivity. I think freelance workers have been experimenting with things like this for a long time. You see many freelancers who prefer to batch their work into just 3 or 4 days. Others prefer spreading it across 6 days, or even 7. We're all different, and what works for one person won't necessarily work for another person!
Simon
I would compensate by being more relaxed and happy.... except I work for myself and I would never buy that line......so it's back to seven days a week for me!
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Simon
@jason_andries1 Isn't 7 days a week common for bootstrap makers and creators? πŸ™‚
Elli Kim
Even working 4.5 days with slightly longer days and one very short day would be great in terms of work and life balance. But it's actually the idea of having more control over when & where you work that I really love.
Carter Michael
I would've loved to have a four-day workweek option. (Trading in vacation time.) I think it would've been super beneficial for having an extra day to relax and gain a better work-life balance.
ZHENG Haibo
I would prefer to spread my work over five days in exchange for a shorter work day than a four-day job. I have a young child who goes to school and I need to pick her up on time. Maybe 4 fixed days plus one flexible day is a better option
Anson Leung
For that extra day, I will prefer to start some self-learning or projects that can boost my career. Sometimes it is just hard to squeeze extra hour to start any kind of self-learning after a long day
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Ksenia Khriptovich
I could definitely use an extra day off! I don't mind working longer hours. With flexible working hours I end up working more during weekdays anyways (I really enjoy my tasks, but also sometimes it's hard to prioritize, so I try to do all at once). That would be great to have one more day to be able to take mind off things :)
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Luis Gustavo
Actually, in our startup we're working on this new model. Some of our team members are making some test. I think we will have information to take decision in a couple of months.. In my personal experience, it depends on the role that you have and the way that you work. For some positions will be easier than others... For me, running marketing was easy work in 4 days, but when I was running sales, the 5 day is super useful to close more MRR
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Luis Gustavo
@jason_andries1 We are also curious for the results. Although it is true that it would be a norm for the sales department, the crazy salesman will prefer not "lose" the MRR that they could close on that day. We will the results once we'll have ready:)
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LisaKim
@marek_mardosewicz Hey Marek, wow I'm also a Scriptwriting fan / AI enjoyer. Nice to meet you!!!
Bakemono Fra
Yes! I would spend the extra day studying and learning new things. I think there is a long way to go to understand how to make the 4-day workweek work across virtually all fields, but it needs to be done. It’s the way forward
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Nilan Saha
I like the idea of having a 4-day work but I suspect that I will be too bored after a while since most of my friends do not have that.
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Jenkins Joseph
i love the idea of a 4-day workweek, the extra day will be a good way for me to relax and that'll increase my productivity and creativity and purpose to my work
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Sean P.
4-day workweek, interesting idea. It can be beneficial to employee satisfaction and productivity. For compensation, maybe longer work hours or fewer vacation days. It would depend on the company and individual needs.