Of course, @caseyneistat shared more about the app on his vlog:
Love how honest he is: "This app kind of sucks. The idea is awesome but the app itself needs to be better." And this is the new beme and now we know why he wasn't talking about it. π
@rrhoover@caseyneistat yeah I love the honesty and did wonder why it was rarely mentioned in the Vlogs.
Will be interested to hear from some old and new Beme users to see their thoughts!
We should get Casey back on to do another LIVE :)
@rrhoover@caseyneistat great quality of a founder, Stewart Butterfield says this of Slack: "Oh, God, yeah. I try to instill this into the rest of the team but certainly I feel that what we have right now is just a giant piece of sh!t. Like, itβs just terrible and we should be humiliated that we offer this to the public." (via @holman)
@rrhoover@caseyneistat It is a phenomenal idea, but yes, it does have some time before it appeals to more audience. The current Android version has BUGS.....BUG!..... BUGS EVERYWHERE! I lost most of my Bemes after they failed to upload. On a side note, I think if top influencers were to promote this app, it would definitely sky rocket among the general population!
Looking forward to playing with this! Hopefully @CaseyNeistat stops by and takes questions from the community π
btw ICYMI back in September Casey did a Product Hunt LIVE: https://www.producthunt.com/live...
@nivo0o0@caseyneistat Same for me, the new design is π. Yes It would be great if he could stop by if he find some time today. Also @caseyneistat "Can I be in the vlog ?" π
After 6 months of hard work, Casey Neistat and the Beme team launched their new version of Beme, rebuilt from the ground up. You can learn more in this Mashable article by @HeySamantha (http://mashable.com/2016/05/02/b...)
I used the beta on Android and stopped using it after several weeks but now I am back.
Thanks @Samsheffer for sharing this news on Twitter :)
As an Android user, while I agree that discoverability needs to be be better, the idea of this raw app is genius. I am one who, even though I work in tech everyday, is sickened by the fact that when I go to a concert, it's phones everywhere. I used to be the person who always recorded concerts, only to discover I didn't even remember the joy of the concert afterwards, since all I was really doing was reaping the sweet friend Karma. With this, hopefully we can get the best of both worlds.
@linkchef So instead of seeing and recording, BEME users are going to be pressing the phone to their chest and publishing? Is that the difference? I don't think it's going to stop people from sharing and NOT living in the moment. Would love to hear your thoughts.
@tacack That could definitely be the case. I do know that the screen can be a distracting experience. Trying to make sure that your picture looks good takes away mental power to actually experience, and share with the people sitting around you, from what I've seen, and heard from others. It will be interesting to see how this works in the future, to see if it actually does take you out of the experience like every other social media/recording, or does change something.
I think everybody know and love @CaseyNeistat . Me too, of course. But honestly Beme has a great narrative (seen the intro video of the app?) and vision but a very very bad implementation (especially on android). I download it again on android after six months and it's still not working as it should.
The company is well funded and has a great team behind, but guys you still need to do A LOT better.
@mattryanharris@nick88msn@caseyneistat The problem with many apps is that they try to reinvent the wheel instead of following common design patterns. They just make apps super confusing to use. And implementation is far from being good either - the app is just laggy and when I tried to use I had no idea what was going on. I respect Casey a lot, but I don't think Beme would get anywhere.
@uvarovdd I completely agree. The UI is rough (reminds me first prototyping with rounded and square elements combined, countries header considerably smaller than the carousels...).This does not mean that the app is not good or won't have success, but from an "expert" point of view its a bad bad FIRST IMPRESSION. @mattryanharris@caseyneistat
It would be interesting to hear the story of the relaunch from the Beme Team, what they learned from the first launch on ProductHunt and in general,...
Bg fan of Casey and his videos, however re: Beme, I personally think the app is:
1. way too complicated for what it should be (musicaly / snapchat)
2. doesn't provide more value (2x/5x/10x) vs anything thats out there in the market (instagram,snapchat)
3. doesn't have that "wow factor"
This was my thinking with their v1 and I do feel the same about v2, the record screen and process is just way too complicated than it should be.
I've built a video app in this same space before (clipstar / cliptone) so speaking from experience (2 years in this space)
Goodluck casey :)
@rickats@caseyneistat Agreed. I think it comes down to the amount of short form video that people want to share in a given day. If something cool is happening, the'll have to decided which platform to share it on. Why would they choose Beme over Snapchat in this case? All their friends are on snapchat, they have filters, etc. Beme didn't stand a chance from the day it launched, no matter how polished the UI/UX. Since Beme and Snapchat are both in the category of instantaneous short form video, Snapchat will win EVERY time.
Nice. I was early in the first version but it just kind of fell out of use for me. Trying it again though.
It's an interesting space, where in some ways I feel like the phone form factor is getting in the way of what should essentially be a GoPro strapped to your forehead.
Anyway, a stab at breaking out the 'showcasing-your-life' space:
1. Instagram as edited, curated, persistent.
2. Snapchat as edited, curated, non-persistent.
3. Beme as unedited, curated, persistent.
I think trying to bite into Snapchats user base is a lose-lose situation, they are way too hot right now, if anything I would think how I could piggyback off their momentum. I highly doubt an acqui-hire is on the horizons, typically snapchat acquisitions are for the tech, besides who wants jobs? haha. I like the honesty but maybe they should take their own advice and stick to Youtube videos. This is a perfect example of how hard it is to be a tech founder, no amount of celebrities pushing your product will make you successful unless your product is already good and just needs a kickstart of users. (bad app = more money/time to push, eventually dies, Good app = Spend lump sum to get eyeballs then go viral, hockey stick curve) I wish them the best of luck, and would love to see them prove my assumptions wrong.
@mollyisyou It's a re-launch of their first beta version launched 6 months ago. They work in Casey-Silence (no promotion in the VLOGs) for 6 months, get a new HQ and launch with a 3 (I think) videos from Casey Youtube account.
I have lots of respect for @mhkt, @caseyneistat, and the Beme team for building this. Building an app is not easy. Building an app that people want to use is even harder.
While v1.0 brings in a lot of nice UI/UX updates, I still question if Beme at its core is a sound idea.
People (me included) bring up Snapchat all the time when comparing with Beme. While Beme and Snapchat may be on opposite ends of a spectrum, the challenge is that they share same spectrum. From a content creation point of view, the two apps fundamentally compete for the same "I must share this!" moments in our lives. Right now I can't think of any reason why I'd open up Beme over Snapchat to share a moment.
Just my 2 cents. Maybe I misunderstand the use case...
The concept is great! The Android app.. nah
I love how @caseyNeistat steps in during the onboarding procedure, however I have found these steps annoying especially as the app does not work as it should.
Simple is better, but the general UI lacks of balance and the contrast between all the colours is something they need to fix.
I have to say I am quite disappointed that Beme is not ready yet: as someone already said they are well founded, their team has got great skills but it's very very tough to get back using the app after the first uncomfortable experience.
Wow, what a superb idea and app so far! I couldn't have asked for anyone better than Casey to lead this project! Keep it up, looking good so far. I personally will be Bemeing my entrepreneur/startup life on how I manage my project :p , follow me: Dilyar :)
Casey is killing it. Definitely like the concept although, I think for most, it is a complete departure from the typical photo taking experience. I am interested to see how much the woman demographic likes it.
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