Creem
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Smoooth SaaS Payments That Don't Rip You Off!
Jason Dainter
Creem — Smooth payments for SaaS
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Creem provides SaaS companies with an easy and robust payment solution, with a focus on fair pricing. We charge 0% in fees up to 1000 EUR AND...we are are extending that with an additional 500 EUR for Product Hunt users in the next 24 hours after launch 👀
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Jason Dainter
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Creem caught my attention after trying to find a good robust payment solution, with a strong developer focus but also fair/transparent pricing. Their product ticks all the boxes for me and the 24/7 support has been great. With no fees at all for the first 1000 EUR the price point is very supportive when still finding product market fit. They’re doing a deal for this launch also to extend that by 500 EUR for PH users (next 24 hours only). Founders @sudoferraz and @alec_erasmus will be available for an AMA all day today to answer questions on the product. Congrats on the launch guys, what inspired you to build the product?
Gabriel Ferraz
@alec_erasmus @jasondainter Thank you so much for your kind words and support! We're thrilled that Creem has caught your attention Jason, and to be launching on Product Hunt! The inspiration behind Creem came from our own experiences and frustrations in the fintech industry. We noticed a gap in the market for a Merchant of Record and payment solution that truly prioritized Small and Medium SaaS businesses while also offering fair and transparent pricing. We see MoRs serving the needs of Content Creators, Digital Products, Open Source Developers, but no one really addressing the actual needs and functionalities of S&M SaaS businesses. We sincerely hope that everyone enjoys using Creem and that we can make a positive impact on businesses out there. Our mission is to empower and support you in your journey to success. As a special offer for our Product Hunt launch, we're excited to provide an additional 500 EUR in processing with 0% fees. To claim this bonus, simply sign up for Creem and send us the code promotion code via the live chat inside the app. We'll then apply it to your account; I'm happy to answer any other questions today!
Pradhumn Vijayvargiya
@sudoferraz @alec_erasmus @jasondainter perfect work team, will check this out. Using Lemon Squeezy as of now. Hopefully, this will save us some time and money. All the best for launch.
Gabriel Ferraz
@alec_erasmus @jasondainter @prad_vv Thanks for the support! Pradhumn, out of curiosity, how was your onboarding experience with Lemon Squeezy?
Pradhumn Vijayvargiya
@alec_erasmus @jasondainter @sudoferraz onboarding experience was decent, neither exceptional nor bad.
Christofer Huber
💎 Pixel perfection
Nice reminds me of resend just for payments 💪🏻 Congrats on the launch guys 🚀
Gabriel Ferraz
@crebuh Hey Christofer, thank you! I couldn't have said it better! This is exactly what we were aiming for! Resend was a huge inspiration for us, is there anything you see on the documentation that reminds you of them? 😉
Alex Chudovsky
Congratulations on the launch! 🚀 Your pricing is very attractive compared to other players in the market. Are you positioning your company as the Merchant of Record (MoR)? Currently, I’m using LemonSqueezy to handle payments and subscriptions because they take on the responsibility of filing and remitting taxes. I wonder if you handle the taxes as well. Wishing you the best of luck and success on your journey!
Gabriel Ferraz
@_alexsaas Thanks Alex! Indeed we are the Merchant of Record and we handle all taxes and the boring stuff for you! After yours and a few other comments, I believe we did a poor job explaining that! Any suggestions on how we could improve that communication?
Alex Chudovsky
@sudoferraz That's great, thanks! I think mentioning on the landing page that you are a MoR, or even explicitly highlighting that "We pay your taxes for you, so you can focus on your business” would help.
Gabriel Ferraz
@_alexsaas Thanks for the suggestion Alex! That's appreciated! ❤️
Arthur
Love to see more payment solutions popping up! Would you say this is comparable to LemonSqueezy? And if so, are there significant differentiators?
Gabriel Ferraz
@arthur_sav Hey Arthur! Indeed! We are also a Merchant of Record, but instead of focusing on Content Creators and Digital Products (e.g. on their roadmap you can see the features they are prioritizing) we are focusing on SaaS businesses and Indie Hackers! At this very early stage, there are not many differentiators other than our pricing, that is much better and more transparent. But as we evolve, the functionalities we offer will be drastically different than what LS is focusing on. With that said, are there any specific ones that spark your eyes? Or any use cases that you would like to see?
Aziz
Congrats on the launch! You had me at low fees and a slick dark theme ) I do payouts in the project I'm currently launching. Do you plan on adding a payout feature anytime soon? I'd love to supplement PayPal payouts with a modern dev-friendly solution.
Gabriel Ferraz
@azizka Hey Aziz, thanks for the kind words! That's highly appreciated ❤️ When you say payouts, do you mean that you would like to integrate as a platform? (e.g. to onboard your own customers and send them payouts from your account?)
Aziz
@sudoferraz Yes, issue a payout to a user. My app doesn't sell anything thus I don't need a payment processor. What it does is cash back rewards. A user enters their PayPal email address then a payout is processed via PayPal's Payouts API.
Gabriel Ferraz
@azizka Hey Aziz thanks for clarifying! Would you like to connect so that I could dive into this specific use case more in depth? There are a couple of questions that I would like to ask to really understand it and provide you with a valuable answer/expected timeline on when we would start looking into it; In case positive, should I shoot you an email later? How can I contact you?
Aziz
@sudoferraz Let's chat. I have my LinkedIn connected to my PH profile. I'm a little hesitant to post my email here.
Gabriel Ferraz
@azizka Sounds good! I will send you a message after the launch craziness :)
James Murdza
I’m so happy to see some competition in this space. I always find it funny that Stripe is supposed to be the “better” PayPal when it’s really not that easy to use and the fees are not much better. I’d love to see a link to the GitHub with templates for NextJS, etc. and a guide for how to migrate an existing app that uses Stripe!
Gabriel Ferraz
@jamesmurdza Hey James, thanks for the encouraging words! Indeed, we see the same situation as well, Stripe became too complex and focused on being a platform now, specially for beginners it is quite overwhelming! They are much more focused on enterprises now; Regarding the NextJS template we were definetely thinking about it! Are there any other services online that you think have great templates? We love @resend for inspiration!
Rémi W.
@jamesmurdza @resend @sudoferraz Definitely good to see some competition in this space, especially after Stripe’s acquisition of LemonSqueezy. I would recommend checking out this Next.js template that specifically targets SaaS: https://github.com/ixartz/SaaS-B... It’s free, open-source, and comes with all the essentials for building a SaaS—authentication, multi-tenancy, roles & permissions, i18n, landing page, database, logging, and testing. Help you build your SaaS faster and it handles all the necessary features.
Gabriel Ferraz
@jamesmurdza @resend @ixartz Hey Remi, love it! Are you a maintainer of this project? We would love to send a PR to it integrating Creem and adding supporting documentation!
Rémi W.
@jamesmurdza @resend @sudoferraz Yes, I'm the author and the maintainer of the project. It's definitively missing in the project, missing a payment provider like Creem. You can find my email in the repository, send me an email. I can also do the integration.
Gabriel Ferraz
@jamesmurdza @resend @ixartz That sounds great Remi! I will contact you soon after the launch craziness has passed!
Girdharee Saran
Congrats to the Creem team on the launch! A great tool for SaaS companies seeking a smooth and cost-effective payment solution. How does Creem handle different currencies and international payments for global SaaS companies?
Gabriel Ferraz
@10xmarketer Hey Girdharee, thanks for your support! We currently use Stripe under the hood, and we offer international payments on all countries supported by Stripe. Pretty much everywhere! Regarding different currencies, they are converted at the moment of payment. Are there any specific countries that are not supported by Stripe that you would like to see on the platform?
Marilyn Wo
I'm running a design as a service and using ThriveCart, it's great so far, but I've also been testing out Lemon Squeezy. So good to see Creem as a better alternative. All the best with your launch @sudoferraz
Gabriel Ferraz
@marilynwo Thanks for the kind words Marilyn, that's appreciated! Out of curiosity, are there any features that caught your attention from Lemon Squeezy that you wish we would already have available?
Andrew Fan
Congrats on the launch! How is it better than Stripe?
Gabriel Ferraz
@andrewfan Thanks Andrew! We are a Merchant of Record, instead of Payment Processor
Lukas Havenga
Congrats on the Launch! Considering that you want to entice a smaller-sized clientele, is this solely web/desktop based or do you have plans to do a mobile version?
Gabriel Ferraz
@lukas_havenga Hey Lukas, thanks! When you say mobile version, do you mean a solution to integrate with AppStores? Or is it something unrelated to AppStores but mobile payments?
Lukas Havenga
@sudoferraz apologies, I wasn't referring to integration but the platform itself, viewing analytics and managing transactions on the go
Alec Erasmus
@sudoferraz @lukas_havenga Thank you for the feedback! We're definitely looking into this. Are there any other features you'd like to see from Creem?
Gabriel Ferraz
@lukas_havenga @alec_erasmus Hey Lukas, complementing what Alec said, during development indeed we haven't focused much on the mobile view. But most of the platform should be at least somewhat usable on mobile, although not super optimized. Have you struggled while accessing any features on mobile at the moment?
Lukas Havenga
@alec_erasmus @sudoferraz This is expected - I'd like to be able to do some basic reporting, filtering on different metrics and dimensions by period etc. and to persist those would be great or perhaps an export of the data for reporting. Great job!
Ohans Emmanuel (remention.ai)
I love the USP! Do you support usage-based pricing? I couldn't find any references in the docs. Congrats on the launch!
Gabriel Ferraz
@ohansemmanuel Thanks for the support Ohans! Unfortunately not yet, is this a use case you would be looking for? We are thrilled to get requests from users, it makes us deliver 5x faster 😎 What kind of product are you planning in using Creem for out of interest?
Ohans Emmanuel (remention.ai)
@sudoferraz Most SAAS offer subscriptions. So in all honesty, it makes sense that Creem supports that first. My use case: I'm building a pay-as-you-go SAAS, which means the billing is centred around usage, not subscriptions. For context, I use Lemonsqueezy right now for this Do you have an email newsletter? Would love to stay in touch with the product's development. It's got great potential!
Gabriel Ferraz
@ohansemmanuel Thanks for the encouraging words! That means a lot ❤️ We don't have an email newsletter, but now that you mentioned, we will need to create it 😂 We do have updates in email for users that are signed up on the app, a blog and our discord community (Link in the docs)! Regarding the PAYG model, would love to know your thoughts on LS apis and how they cater for your use case. We were looking into a simplified token model that makes the integration easier. Is your specific use case a complex one?
Ohans Emmanuel (remention.ai)
@sudoferraz happy to have a dedicated chat on this (if required). I don't know if I can do the question justice over text here :) My LinkedIn is in my bio (happy to connect and chat about this) Current use case is graduated pricing. LS apis aren't bad, they do have their quirks though
Gabriel Ferraz
@ohansemmanuel Sounds good Ohans! Will shoot you a DM once the launch craziness has passed!
Rahul
How does it differentiate from Stripe?
Gabriel Ferraz
@rsharma Hey Rahul, thanks for the question! We are a Merchant of Record instead of a Payment Processor. So we handle all your tax and compliance, and you can use us to sell globally, while we handle the boring stuff for you ;) Do you currently use Stripe? If so, do you use any providers for handling tax and compliance?
Diogo Mafra
Love how easy it is! And excited to try it out! I wish you a successful launch and journey!
Gabriel Ferraz
@diogo_mafra Thanks for the support Diogo! Hope to see you on the platform soon!
Mariam Yusuf
Which countries do you support?
Gabriel Ferraz
@mariamyusuf_ Hey Mariam thanks for the question. For the launch we have limited support to be able to onboard everyone with a nice experience. But soon we plan to expand to all countries that Stripe support (coming weeks) And after that we will start rolling out on additional countries; Which country in specific would you be looking for?
Mariam Yusuf
@sudoferraz Stripe Connect supports many other countries which are not directly supported via the standard Stripe account. Hope to see all included.
Mohamed Ahmed Fouad
Congrats @alec_erasmu! 🎉
Gabriel Ferraz
@alec_erasmus @mohamed_ah_fo Thanks Mohamed! Do you see any possible synergies with WunderGraph? 👀
Terry Lennon
Really needed! Signed up already, thanks for making! Paying 12% fees at the moment on lemonsqueezy all-in, this saving would be huge! Congrats @sudoferraz and @alec_erasmus !!!
Gabriel Ferraz
@alec_erasmus @terry_lennon Thanks Terry! Appreciate the kind words! Any features that you think are a must have from Lemon Squeezy that we should be bringing over asap?
Terry Lennon
@alec_erasmus @sudoferraz Abandoned checkout email features are quite handy! Made a few sales on them, happy to pay the margin to claim sales I would have otherwise missed! Otherwise (more selfishly) support for the Isle of Man if possible! One of the neighboring islands to the UK - we don't have access to Stripe at the moment unfortunately (though strangely enough, we do have access to Lemonsqueezy, which is Stripe under the hood)
Gabriel Ferraz
@alec_erasmus @terry_lennon Hey Terry, thanks for the insights! The abandoned checkout feature is def something we have our eyes on! 👀 And on the Isle of Man, is that where your business is located or have you onboarded at LS as an individual?
Terry Lennon
@alec_erasmus @sudoferraz Amazing! Excited to see it! And also diving into the platform, processing payments in USD is high up too (but I'm sure you've got that sorted on the deck) Business on the Isle of Man with Lemonsqueezy 👍 But either would work or be huge - both for me and many others here
Gabriel Ferraz
@alec_erasmus @terry_lennon Awesome! Thanks for the heads up! I'm going to make sure to let you know personally as soon as we roll out the USD payments!
Dmitry Bergelson
Best luck with your launch - and further business development!
Andreea S.
Congrats to the Creem team on an amazing launch! 🎉 Finally, a payment solution with transparent pricing and no fees up to 1000 EUR. The additional 500 EUR for Product Hunt users is a sweet deal! SaaS companies, this one’s for you! 💰🚀
Gabriel Ferraz
@andreea_staicu Thanks Andreea! I see you are launching soon, any plans to integrate a payment solution soon? 😉
Goutham
Interesting product in an interesting space. Congratulations on the launch guys
Gabriel Ferraz
@gouthamj Thanks Goutham!
Fyresite
So is this a stripe competitor but for the EU? We like the dark UI. Very sleek. Overall, congrats on the launch! We look forward to seeing the growth and good luck to the team!
Gabriel Ferraz
@fyresite Thanks for the support! We are a Merchant of record, so we offer more than stripe and are currently built on top of them!