I have to say, not trying to be the bad guy, as a community of makers it's a bit odd to support a product that actually convince us to steal/not pay/break terms of another maker, big one or small one, it's just bad business conduct.
It's like supporting games/movies/music hacking groups in my mind. Makers are working hard on their product/content, if don't want to pay, find something more suitable for you.
@tomer_barnea1 This is a good point. To be clear, someone has to be a subscriber and pay for the content. This tool just allows you to share it with authorized users without having to give up your password.
@tjeffkerr For the vast majority of people, it does not. Almost all popular services have text like "allow X people to stream at the same time." As long as you are not selling access (which the product doesn't allow) and keep it to authorized users, then it's allowed.
@jbrowder1 May I ask why the information on your homepage (https://donotpay.com/) is completely referring to a completely different product (a robot lawyer) than described here? This is not a good sign.
@jbrowder1@ozkanbugra They offer a suite of services underneath the "DoNotPay" brand. Their app allows you access most of those services, but a browser extension is probably the best way for this particular product/feature.
@duarteosrm Thanks so much for the question. If you use any popular service, they have text like "allow X people to stream at the same time." Of course they allow certain people to access your account (roommates, family, etc). As long as the appropriate limits are in place, this is a great security tool to avoid having to share your password with these people.
They basically charge you $3 to add your phone number to the Do Not Call registry. not super useful unless you have some things you were wrongly charged for.
@ttwroble This particular product (above) is free. As for the other stuff, we offer over 100 different features for the $3, including a fake credit card to give to those robocallers. Adding you to the DNC registry is just the first step :)
@chrismessina thank you so much for hunting. We are big fans of anything that helps consumers having to pay $100 a month for all the streaming options :)
Okay, this is interesting. I wonder how Netflix, Audible etc. feel about this. I used to buy exclusive sneakers online using a similar technique–transferring cart checkout sessions via cookies. Nike and Adidas weren’t happy 😂
@ayoolajohn_ yeah, not sure why people waste time making these services. The maker's friends will think it's cool, then the letters from lawyers start rolling in (best case scenario)
Why would anyone trust this, they can pretty much hijack your sessions, steal your credit card info, it only takes one oversight or vulnerability in code for all that data to be leaked. Oh god, no thanks!
@shantanutarey We use VGS and have no access to the cookies or data. In addition, we commit in writing in our terms of service to never sell user data (donotpay.com/terms).
Three issues that make this bad idea. (For me)
1. Seems basically illegal. If not. It is morally wrong.
2. The security risks that @shantanu points out are so valid it’s scary. Sure, there are other concerns but those are enough to say no to this.
3. It’s against Makers. Imagine if someone made an extension that took away any potential revenue. No matter the amount, it’s stealing.
I want to point out that I like DoNotPays service. It is worth it on its own.
The episode on This Week in Startups is great but this chrome extension marketing is counter productive for creating trust.
@shantanu@bryanglanz Hi Bryan, thanks so much for the feedback. 1) It is certainly not illegal to share your accounts with authorized users. In fact, almost all services explicitly state you can have multiple streamers at the same time. 2) It is much more secure than sharing your password. We use VeryGoodSecurity.com and have PCI II compliance. In other words, we do not store the cookies. Finally, we commit to never sell or rent user data explicitly in writing in our terms of service. 3) Someone does have to pay for the content. Our service is only about helping you share with authorized users, such as roommates, securely, For example, I certainly don't feel comfortable with my roommate having my password, even if they can legally and morally access my Netflix account. Finally, this really only is targeted at large corporations, not makers.
Also, I really appreciate that you listened to the TWIST episode.
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