New on Product Hunt — Points are replacing upvotes!

@xanderiang I don't think its an innovation, but a basic logic to sort the best products, yet many facing unfair results despite genuine traction. They should have communicated these changes at least two months before.

@xanderiang Hi Alexander, I believe this system of taking into account the upvotes and comments already existed just that the leaderboard displayed some anomalies. This update corrects those situations. In the past, some launches with fewer upvotes ranked higher than those with more, causing confusion. The introduction of points now clarifies that the ranking system considers both upvotes and comments and a few other factors maybe. All the best for your launch. :)

@bensyverson Haha, just saw your product and supported. BTW, this update was rolled out before you launched. :)

@rohanrecommends Hey, thank you! And it's cool to hear that I got to experience the new point system.

@ash_grover To some extent, but most people may not comment, but its a genuine upvote, then how do you address it? @rohanrecommends

@ash_grover yes, also, in the past some launches ranked lower than those with fewer upvotes. This created a confusion. Now, the points make it clear that the ranking system is based on upvotes as well as comments.

@veeresh_devireddy I believe the algorithm still considers upvotes as an important metric. Comments is an add-on booster. :)

@veeresh_devireddy Veeresh, your comments are visible to me. Sometimes you may not see the comments immediately maybe because it was under moderation? However, if you log out of your PH profile or open an incognito window to check if your engagement is visible publicly. Hope this helps.

@rohanrecommends @mikekerzhner @rajiv_ayyangar @andrey_dyadyura @devladinci I have cross-verified these comments on several devices, incognito windows, and with several other PH community users, none were able to find my comments on 30+ discussions for weeks. I am stressing on the same point, it has to be either visible or not, with 100% accuracy, and we should fix the issue even if it lacks the consistency of 1%. There should be no room for magics of re-logins or retry mechanisms, it has to work 100%. About moderation, what is the SLA or max time taken to approve or disable comments? Due to the high volume of comments, it is a terrible idea to moderate these by humans, you must deploy AI bots to validate against your own terms and publish them instantaneously without any delay of not more than a few minutes. I have proof of emails from your teams who manually manipulated these. In sum, this is a serious issue for 2+ months. I have already shared some links to your twitter DM to verify. I can also give other community members contacts/profiles who have confirmed this issue via emails and whatsapp messages.

Thanks @rohanrecommends! @mikekerzhner @rajiv_ayyangar @andrey_dyadyura @devladinci, but this is both shocking and weird, please clarify me: 1. What is this reset process? 2. What did they do in the past which blocked my stats, visibility of contributions? 3. On what basis such blockers or filters set against my account by your team manually or some automated security bots? 4. Why aren't these issues not rectified by regular or automated code, instead of manual resets? 5. When all these happening, why there is no formal or system notification or alerts about these critical events from your team or on portal? 6. In what future circumstance these issues might occur again?

@kate_ramakaieva If they don't do it, what's your proactive measures to evaluate?

@kate_ramakaieva In the past, some launches with fewer upvotes ranked higher than those with more, causing confusion. The introduction of points now clarifies that the ranking system considers both upvotes and comments. Thus encouraging meaningful engagement. :)

@johnberg Agreed. However, the algo currently is considering upvotes and comments both. Do you have any alternate suggestions? :)

@rohanrecommends I would also track actual leads coming from the launch. That is the metric at the end of the day, isn't it? :)

@tousif_socialmeai What is your general proposal or idea of determining the "deserving products"?

@tousif_socialmeai The points now considers both upvotes and comments. It previously did as well but this makes it more refined. :)

@varun_bhagath Indeed. The previous system ranked products on the leaderboard basis their upvotes now it considers the overall engagement on a launch post.

@oksana_ch Yes, taking into consideration comments not just upvotes will encourage makers to seek genuine feedback. :)