@sankethbe @telegram Whatsapp is not even close. Telegram is like Google, Whatsapp - just a Bing

@vlad_pekh @sankethbe @telegram What's a Bing?

@telegram @sankethbe It was the best even before that. Sad that people don't see how powerful Telegram is.

@andres_valera I'm using both (different teams) for almost two years. Slack is still slow as hell, not even close to Telegram.

@andres_valera Um, I do not get this point. How would Slack replace Telegram? One primary factor why I like Slack for the current role it does: threaded conversations. That's not available for Telegram.

@livejamie Yes. I've been using it for friends and family since Facebook picked up WhatsApp. We currently have 4+ family/friends groups (all family, nerdy talk, gaming, dev, etc). The location sharing features, voice (and now video) snippets, Giphy/YouTube/etc bots, etc all make it worth it. I actually had just finished a schpiel to a friend on how to convert his friends to Telegram ("Televangelism" 😄) when this update dropped. He, too, used to use Hangouts. I've never used it, but the fact that this is a non-profit (https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-a...) with apps on (most) all platforms and just requires a phone # makes it pretty easy to convert anyone.

@jadojodo @livejamie pls can you share your shpiel - I'm constantly trying to get people to switch, but the better feature set doesn't seem to counter the network effect enjoyed by WhatsCrap. Looking for any and all suggestions / ideas to convert. Ta.

@jnmclaren @livejamie I would be happy to! I tend to tailor it to the person. The biggest barrier to adoption is community; No one wants to use an app that they only know one person on (you!). I combat this by frequently messaging the people I convert and demoing features to them even after they’ve joined. This also means showcasing new features when they were announced. For example, when 4.0 dropped and added the video clips, I immediately made a few and sent them to friends and family along w/ a prompt to update and basic instructions (e.g. “Telegram just updated and added video clips! Tap the mic icon and it’ll change to a camera. It works the same as the mic. You gotta make sure your app is updated, though!”). This lets everyone see the features in action instead of reading about them. This leads to the next bit of my schpiel: The live demo. When I want to show someone the app, I’ll open it up and show them features one by one (starting with the ones I like and use the most: Desktop and voice messages. I’ll send my brother a quick voice message (e.g. “Hey, testing out this app for so-and-so. Send me a reply!”) while I explain the ticks (https://telegram.org/faq#q-what-...) and the status (“Jordan is typing…”). I’ll also be sure to give lots of real world use-cases for each feature: Voice messaging is great for in the car (mostly hands-free), as is the location sending feature (“Honey, how long until you get home?” —> ). Sending others (or yourself… it’s a feature now) messages for you to view later. Much, much faster than sending yourself an email and with the voice clips, even better than Siri/Google Reminders (since you can’t use X on iOS/Android/Windows/Linux!). To further explain this one, imagine you’re in the grocery and came up with an idea but only have one hand and want to record for later… Send yourself a voice message in Telegram! When you get home to your Linux desktop, just open the web/native client and you’ve got your own voice right there. etc Some (or perhaps all) of these features may not be unique to Telegram. But since you mentioned WhatsApp, I have a specific argument against it: I used to believe in it. I loved WhatsApp pre-Facebook and happily bought 5 (or was it 10…) years of service (it was $1/yr). I can’t find their exact bit they had in the app, but it was basically this: ‘We used to work in advertising and hated that customers had to sell their information to use the service. We’ll never sell your information and in return, we simply will charge a modest fee to use the app.’ … Aaaand then Facebook came in. $19B. The per-user price I saw was $40. That means Facebook would need every single user to subscribe for FORTY years to get their money back (this obviously ignores additional revenue/interest but…). I knew there was absolutely no way that they were going to be able to keep their promise. http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017... https://www.theverge.com/2016/8/... etc This got a bit long-winded but the tl;dr is: 1. Explain the features. 2. Demo the features. 3. Provide YOUR use-cases for them (or feel free to use mine…) 4. Nurture your converts. 5. Help THEM convert people. 6. Evangelize new features to your converts.