Hey guys, This week on the podcast we had a great discussion with Katie Dill, the director of experience design at Airbnb. In this conversation we discuss managing designers as a design experiment, how craft and hustle go together, and why the user experience should be important to every employee. Katie is full of insights, and I really got a lot out of this one. Hope you do too. Enjoy!

It was a super interesting talk. I love it when product/design teams put together a solid methodology like this. Humility, craft, hustle. 3 great values :)