@rrhoover @caseynewton Side note, but related... there is a lot of functionality going into to a small strip at the top and scrolling horizontally to find people's stories isn't the best experience. I wonder if this section will get redesigned and given more real estate soon?

@rrhoover @caseynewton what's the reason for implementing ephemeral messages? I think it's absolutely horrible and makes communicating a huge pain in the ass - it actually ruined more than one conversation I had on snapchat. Do they design it horrible on purpose in order to push ppl to take photos? I seriously don't get it

@rrhoover @caseynewton IG Direct live seems like an obvious missing component for IG in their war against Snapchat.

@yannschaub Isn't that the point though? If the conversation is not ephemeral, Snapchat/Instagram is not the medium you want to have it.

@gabrielizaias When it comes to text I just doesn't get it, that's it. Also its super buggy on android and killed the conversation because of that more often than not. Still I don't get why you would implement that AFTER having a "normal" chat feature (that probably no one used anyway). Instagram never seemed ephemeral to me and it still doesn't.

@nivo0o0 welp, RIP Snapchat, it was fun while it lasted.

@ianissoawesome I wouldnt be betting against Snapchat... people said this when they launched Instagram Stories Instagram make some effort towards their content creators - I've seen some issues with Snapchat not being great towards theirs... THIS could be a huge differentiator and I hope every platform considers their creators as a key part of its success.

@bentossell I've seen my snap stories feed thin out since IG Stories launched, and only thing left I'm using it for is DM's and filters. Word tho, snapchat is lacking in that department, one of my main issues with it are metrics and discoverability. Oh, also their android app is terrible, which makes me hate my phone whenever I have to open it.

@bentossell @ianissoawesome just as much risk not having normal users incentivized to create though. Something snap has always understood with the base unit being messaging (snap). Sure, you might have less influencers with large followings (at least relative to instagram) but you hedge against going the way of Vine where normal users don't create and eventually the celebrities you created port audience elswhere

@jacksondahl yeh I wasn't ignoring the normals but highlighing the creator side. a healthy balance is tricky but needed

@evanlaclark Why do you say that? Snapchat's UX is great and overall extremely simple.

@thejfkshow it's kind of a disaster in some areas. Try using Memories or saving a Snapchat to your Camera Roll or exporting multiple Spectacle videos. It's atrocious. I suppose that is just my opinion though.

@tsunaze snapchat already lose a lot of users, are you living on a cave or something?

@tsunaze and what is that vision? At the end of the day what matters is where the attention is. And Instagram has a lot more going on in that department for a lot more users.

@sanshiro No, I use both. But for myself, I only see my friends's stories on Snapchat and not in Instagram. Because I, and them still use IG as a photo app. The only stories I see in IG is from Influencers, and when I say "see", I don't even watch them. Do you watch Live from your friends often (which is what is advertised in the video)?

@nscmnto I don't know, I don't work there, but there are rumors of a IPO coming. They are not really afraid. Even, they took some of the features from IG, which is cool (rewind and pass). Instagram is backed by Facebook, so they want to eat everything they can. Seriously, if it's not for the Influencer you follow on FB and IG, do you really watch Live from your friends? I have 200+ and the last Live I've seen was 2-3 months ago.

@tsunaze it's precisely for influencers that I'm talking about. Growing a Snapchat audience is way harder than it is to grow an Instagram one. So these features make it very clear where I should be investing my time. Snapchat knows they have a massive influencer user base, and yet they don't really provide features for us. Cool filters only go so far.

@vincentorleck and rewrite that android app form scratch. It's a fucking joke and makes me hate my phone whenever I use it.