Hey there! Are you crying because Sunrise is living its last hours? I know I do. These guys have been working on a replacement for Sunrise and, even if there is still work to do, their calendar is already working very nicely.
The reality of calendars is that we should stop looking at calendars, period. The technology exists to make this possible.
Meekan.com exists for a reason. When I want to meet with someone, it should be 2 or 3 clicks, and all the contextual details of my calendar should be "o-authed" in and the system should automatically prepare my phone call, skype call, or whatever without me ever having to look at an actual calendar or type in a pesky pin number.
SMS would be the best channel to manage all of this and the early adopter group should be encouraged to have ridiculously detailed calendar events with location/etc... recorded.
@datarade Sure, except no. Please no more SMS nothingness. More importantly, many people are visual learners/perceivers/etc. Looking at a visual representation of my day allows me to see a visual representation of my day. That's a good thing.
I have a feeling that this is gonna be beautiful once everything is complete with more integrations.. The π will definitely π again π― can't wait to see it ;)
Do you have additional media to demonstrate the value of your app? The images in the media section here are unclear. I'd love to see a video or stronger images that demonstrate the value proposition. It must be pretty amazing if it's got over 1,000 votes.
@khw77 We don't have any video so far. We're focused on our beta and on getting feedbacks to improve. Sign up and then DM us your email address on Twitter (@Kin_Today) for more info π
I am so happy to see Kin Calendar on Product Hunt.π
@troblous shared it with the Remotive Slack Community 2 months ago and I am using it since.
As a Sunrise user, I was so sad when I heard of the shutdown. When I stopped using Sunrise Calendar, I used less and less my calendar. Now with Kin, I am finding what I loved about Sunrise.
Yes It's not perfect and there are lots of work to do but I am sure Kin is the best calendar app you can choose if you want a good calendar app to be productive.
It's a clear time for Sunrise alternatives... 2 TODAY (at least). There will definitely be a showdown. But nevertheless, I'm a big fan of Kin. I look forward to what it will be in the future. After using it for a little while, there are a lot of rough edges to work out. But nevertheless a put together product.
One of my favorite features that sunrise had was the calendar keyboard and the ability to past a link for the times that I was available.
Is there any chance this could be on Kin's road map?
@jameswahba It's a tricky feature that is in our "Ideas" backlog on our public roadmap: https://trello.com/b/RXCPcX7U/ki...
Depending on the votes, we'll put some resources to work on it in the future.
@troblous David Cancel is a very customer driven person and believes that roadmap shouldn't be published as that follows a product driven belief. I think I got that right? @dcancel
I've been testing quite a few calendars since Sunrise announced that they would be closing. Kin is still pretty young but I like the direction it's going.
Take my upvote, and count me in to use it.
TL;DR: definitely Sunrise's next of Kin :)
@andym_dc@lucascerdan Essential: multi-accounts for Google and integrations: Facebook/Eventbrite/Meetup/Github/Trello. The distinguishing ones will come later π
got the invite, aaaaaaand another disappointment.
it's tough to make a good calendar. But it's also easy because you know how - take google's, fix it's most obnoxious issues and start improving and adding features.
But you can't build a feature without having the basic things and have people jump calendars. It's too much in the life's workflow, too much of a friction to switch.
@petergreeny Hi Peter, what are the core features that you need and that Kin doesn't handle at the moment? Don't hesitate to email us at hello@kin.today.
@troblous@kin
re-installed again and gave it another few minutes (more than most users would if they didn't like something from the first try). A couple of things i'd suggest:
- Add the 3-week view (i personally use only that view)
- Let me undo changes or deletings
- Let me better control what events I see and how.
- The worst: connected facebook, see invites - great! can decline - even better! but then they stay on my calendar - wtf. Especially love the ones that span for 1 month.
- Allow me to change event details inline
- Design it up. There are 100s of UX little things that will make this cal better than the others. The popup that opens with edit info - you can't tell to which time slot it relates. I'd just re-use google's approach of a lil window "under" the mouseclick (and hide the map under an extra click - it's too noisy)
@edtheron We loved Sunrise, we were early users. When Microsoft announced that they would shut down, we tried other calendar apps...and didn't find THE one.
So we're building it.
@troblous How long did it take to build and what challenges have you found on the way? Also how did you find early adopters (I hadn't heard of you before now!)?
@stinhambo@troblous 3 months with lots and lots of challenges. On the technical side: working on the integrations, building an API without relying on some of the frameworks that powers pretty much all others calendar apps (which "limits" them in a specific way of doing calendaring).
@stinhambo A quick example: EventKit on iOS, if you build your app around it, you're basically limited to supporting what the stock Calendar.app supports (on top of being platform-locked to iOS / macOS)
As for 3rd party calendar API providers (the likes of Google Calendar, Office365, or even the ones we "consider" as such even though they are not: Trello, Wunderlist etc ...), you're very quickly limited by their abilities: that API doesn't support push? well I guess your app will not and will poll and drain your users' battery, If you have a layer of indirection between the 3rd parties and your users, you can poll on that layer and push to your users, yes it's not gonna be instant push (you're still polling somewhere) but at least you reduce the pain for your end users (no more battery drain, no more insane bandwidth usage)
People are too busy these days. A clean calendar or a calendar with just one square or rectangle is a life I want to live. Red, yellow, purple, green...damn... where's time for fun, kids, sleep?
Hey, I got an invite recently but now I am having problems logging in. Am I required to always use the link give to me in the email? I don't see any option to log in on the default site.
I've been freaking out for several months because I couldn't find a suitable calendar replacement for Sunrise. When I found Kin about 2 weeks ago, I finally felt relieved that someone was stepping up to fill the large hole in my life that Sunrise is leaving behind!
It's not up to the par that Sunrise set quite yet, but they have a very solid start and are improving on it rapidly, so I'm sure they will get there in the coming months.
@ourielohayon iOS is in private beta, the public one is coming soon (you'll be notified by email). For Android, you'll have to wait a bit until this fall ππΌ
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