@sisedi At least they removed the glowing apple logo on the back

@eonpilot yeah but when you interact with the new touch bar, it gently tattoos the apple logo onto each fingertip

@sisedi Seriously though you know this touch bar is going to be 👌 for XCode/snippets/clipboards etc etc. Productivity here we come!

@eonpilot yeah I'm pretty stoked but won't be getting one anytime soon

@sisedi I guess they're still working up the courage to remove the headphone jack on the MacBook.

@bentossell why did i just buy a macbook pro last mth... fml

@bentossell yeah but it's Microsoft seems like the such an awful statement to base purchases on. MS is killing it right now and Apple is stagnating IMO.

@mildrenben killing it with outdated I/O: no USB-C on a $3k computer, outdated graphics cards, etc. The concept is nice, but I don't need it, I can't draw anyway.

@mburns87 if you bought it less than 30 days ago, you should be able to return it. Apple has a very liberal return policy, so you can return even used items

@bentossell Looks to me like amongst the most dysfunctional things ever seen. It's a gimmick I would expect from a gaming keyboard. I'm faster with my shortcuts and mouse than I would ever be with that battery absorbing gimmick bar.

@jackdweck emojibar FTW

@jackdweck I wanted to resist. I tried to resist. But yes, please just take my money. And more of my money for ever accessory I currently own but in USB-C form...

@bentossell @jackdweck The emoj-iBar 😎 (sorry couldn't help myself)

@jackdweck 15" loaded = $4,299. They make you pay for the 2TB, that's for sure. I'm going to wait for a 32GB refresh for now, so in a bizarre reversal "Keep my money". :-D

@ibcj @jackdweck I agree 16GB max is a little disappointing…

@rrhoover did you see the interview with Craig, they why they spent 1/3 of WWDC talking about iMessage instead of other things. He said, when we do better performance bugs and whatnot no one cares, but the second we add 2 emojis the whole world goes crazy! 😂

@rrhoover It's all about the DJ now... scratch support? check ✅

@_yannbertrand it's cheaper than the SurfaceBook, what do you mean?

@759nelson for equivalent specs the Surface Book is cheaper...

@kidbombay But they kept the headphone jack, so that makes up for losing USB, HDMI, MagSafe and card slot, right? Except based on their new iPhones, they see headphone jacks as obsolete. Oh, Apple.

@kidbombay Think about it this way though: every port is every port. There may be a dongle, sure. But this thing is way more forward thinking this way.

@mg this is backwards. Now I have to carry more stuff which doesn't help. I actually have to buy a SD card reader which I haven't had to purchase for 5 years.

@eonpilot Man, I see that now. What a drag. I'll hold on for the 32GB refresh I guess. :-/

@ibcj I have been waiting on 32gb for the past 3 years. It's ridiculous to run todays "RAM heavy" professional software and browsers on 16gb of RAM. Huge mistake!

Interesting response from Phil Schiller posted by MacRumors: *Question from David:* The lack of a 32GB BTO option for the new MBPs raised some eyebrows and caused some concerns (me included). Does ~3GBps bandwidth to the SSD make this a moot issue? I.e. memory paging on a 16GB system is so fast that 32GB is not a significant improvement? *Schiller's answer:* Thank you for the email. It is a good question. To put more than 16GB of fast RAM into a notebook design at this time would require a memory system that consumes much more power and wouldn't be efficient enough for a notebook. I hope you check out this new generation MacBook Pro, it really is an incredible system. http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10...

@ibcj what do you use the 32gb for? (my current macbook has 4gb :()

@brunolemos I still fancy myself a software engineer, and certainly am still quite a nerd. So my largest consumption of memory typically comes from running multiple virtual machines. And I'd love nothing more than to be able to run two VM's with 8ish GB each (leaving 16GB for my native OS). And come to think of it, even running native in 16GB with another 16GB to a primary VM would be lovely. Another (not so primary use case) would be to be able to run analytics on largeish data sets in memory. Loading a couple GB dataset into memory for analytics and processing on my local machine just makes me smile.

@mawunamiakoto 32 GB not even close. I need speed and power. I would never store that much on a laptop anyways - Capacity is what the cloud is for.

@ericnunlee totally agree. Seems a silly move with most storage now moving to cloud for them to focus on increasing that while sacrificing on RAM.

@hameto_ I was thinking the same thing. Our hands spend most of the time on the trackpad, seems counterintuitive to not place the touch bar near it.

@desmonddantzler @hameto_ They did show how customizing the bar was really fluid as the two screens were close to each other. I do agree ergonomically it seems awkward at first, but I think when you start to use it it might be better placed. Also, it's where the function keys were, its extending their use.

@hameto_ if it was placed near the trackpad, your hands/arm would cover it while typing. It's basically a small screen. Since the content is dynamic, hindering visibility would be a mistake.

@francisperron now waiting to see a great dock to have only one thing to plug in this little beast at home. I'm actually super excited! Can't wait to get mine. Did you order for all the team @ GitMarket? ;)

@jipiboily Its just sad we need to buy dongles or dock at the price they are selling it :( No we're good, I have a early 2015 13", I'll stick with that for now and let the industry adapt to usb-c/thunderbolt3.

It can power two external 5k dispays and the internal display is retina DPI. 4k in a 15" monitor would be pointless unless you're wearing binoculars and sitting 1 ft away.

@nxc I got the previous version of the Macbook Pro Retina and I can't add extra ram because it comes attached to the mother board. This will be the same?