Elaine Ou

Sand Hill Exchange — Fantasy Stock Exchange for Startups

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Elaine Ou
By the way, I'd like to point out that Product Hunt is trending on Sand Hill Exchange! http://sandhill.exchange/company...
Ryan Hoover
@eiaine where can I see our market cap? :) Also, what happened on Sept 21st? Looks like we tanked. Ha!
Elaine Ou
@rrhoover Product Hunt prices had been rising for a while on fundraising rumors (congratulations on your Series A, btw!)
Pranay Srinivasan
I love this!!!
Sean Percival
@utekkare This is very much your style! ;)
Sean Percival
Tell us about the team building this. Why are you the right people to make this successful?
Elaine Ou
@Percival The co-founders are from Stanford, Harvard, and MIT. According to Silicon Valley, that equals billion-dollar company. On a more serious note: We recently exited our last startup together and wanted to give back to the startup community.
Elaine Ou
@Percival Warren is a data scientist and a machine learning expert, Gerrit is a serial entrepreneur, and I spent 2 years designing technology for the Australian Stock Exchange.
Sean Percival
@eiaine Yes the trifecta of entitlement ;) Can you tell me what that last startup was?
Elaine Ou
@Percival It was Barnacle, a peer-to-peer delivery startup. The technology and platform were acquired by another company earlier this year. I can't disclose the details publicly but it's a great story I'd love to tell in person.
Elaine Ou
Silicon Valley is in another tech bubble and everyone knows it. Product Hunt allows users to upvote the products they like. We built a prediction market in the form of a stock exchange so that people can downvote as well.
Will Imholte
@eiaine "Silicon Valley is in another tech bubble and everyone knows it." Well reasoned.
charles lee
Hey, this is pretty fun, even if it reminds me about how much my Fantasy Football team sucks right now. =) My default avatar is the Campbell Soup Icon...that's cool! How'd you come up with that?
Elaine Ou
@chug2k Huge Andy Warhol fan :)
charles lee
@eiaine You ever think about using hiring, either as a signal or a monetization route? I have a friend who just thought this might be interesting to figure out where she should apply to work.
Elaine Ou
@chug2k That's a great idea. Our co-founder Gerrit previously built RezScore, so he is certainly interested in this space. We are keeping things simple for now and will see where to build things out as we grow.
Sean Percival
My concern with something like this would be stickiness. Do you think users will be engaged beyond using it once? And how to plan to drive user retention?
Elaine Ou
@Percival We have fantasy leagues set up just like fantasy sports, so there is offline engagement as well. Our daily emails with news and market stats have a 60% open rate.
Abhi Chirimar
This feels like I would check it daily like writers do their Amazon book rank. Anybody else think of how they would do with a MatterMark hookup? cc/ @DanielleMorrill
Sean Percival
@abhic She has a fantasy VC firm already! :D
Sean Percival
This seem safer than losing all of our LPs money :) Is this meant for investors, startup fans or both?
Elaine Ou
@Percival The exchange is meant for startup fans to share sentiment on startups, the aggregated data can be used by investors as they see fit.
Sal Matteis
this is fun.
Sean Percival
Do you have any questions for me?
Elaine Ou
@Percival Given your focus on bitcoin investments, what do you think of BTC as a currency for real investments on our exchange? Also, we've been running a closed league in our office here at First Floor Labs and the members love it. Would you like to help us organize a similar league for @500startups founders?
Sean Percival
@eiaine Could be interesting (or a huge legal issue) but also might want to consider a lot of the new smart contract technology being used. Some of them actually have exchange/equity features built in natively. I would be open to having our team or a future accelerator batch do a closed league.
Elaine Ou
@Percival great, we'll DM you!
Niv Dror
@eiaine #1 on Product Hunt pre-#500Strong!
Elaine Ou
@Nivo0o0 Thanks Niv!
Sean Percival
Have you raised any funding for this yet?
Elaine Ou
@Percival No, not yet.
Eric Posen
Would love to create a league! Edit: Oops, @rrhoover is the comments section on this sub meant to stay to 500 Startups partners & makers for questions, or open discussions?
Elaine Ou
@goeric Sure, send us a message and we'll help you set one up!
Sean Percival
@goeric No open to all to add comments
Anjney Midha
@eiaine great work! Combining the current UX with decentralized architecture (like https://github.com/psztorc/Truth...) may actually allow market consensus that's more reliable than any other source
Elaine Ou
@AnjneyMidha Thanks! We see blockchain as a protocol through which any titled asset can be transferred, and some of the new contract technologies are made for this, as pointed out by @Percival. We had not seen Truthcoin, thank you for the heads up. This is a cool idea, we should discuss more -- let's DM.
Pranay Srinivasan
Hey Elaine, 2 Questions: 1. On the Join page, what does "league" stand for? How do I add my startup to the Exchange. 2. Why cant I just use my Angellist profile to create a page on the Exchange to get it moving? Thanks, Pranay
Gerrit Hall
@utekkare Pranay, my Product Hunt account just got approved, so I'll field this one :) We've found the best way to use Sand Hill Exchange is to compete with small groups of your colleagues. This is akin to the "leagues" that power fantasy sports competitions. In fact, we're currently closing off registration to only allow participation as part of league play, so it's good that you joined when you did :) At our MVP stage many of our features are done manually so keep me on speed dial. I can take care of things like helping you organize a league, answering any questions, adding your startup. Email me your Crunchbase link which we scrape to build out your company's page, and we'll announce your listing in our next email blast. Angellist is coming next! :) Best!
Arush
Isn't this like real trading except without the regulation around insider-trading and therefore incredibly easy to cheat? This is slightly different to sports fantasy leagues, because in sports nobody knows what is going to happen. In business there are a privileged few who know **well** before the news breaks. Is that a problem?
Elaine Ou
@arush It's fairly easy to obtain a roster of insider holders (founders, early employees, institutional investors). As with public markets, we can report insider transactions as another data point for users to interpret as they like. Furthermore, insider trading on our marketplace would be great! Part of the problem with private companies is that they disclose very little information. Outsiders don't have a great way to gauge the health of a company. But if employees and customers are selling a company en masse, this provides a warning to real-world investors.
Parham
I'm so happy this has been built, posted the idea for it on hacker news last year and never got around to building it. Kudos.
Gerrit Hall
@par_ham Thanks Parham! DM me so we can talk further about this, we could use your help :)