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@ourielohayon It doesn't seem super expensive to me. Definitely a higher end product, but there are plenty of comparable priced shower heads out there.
If this truly provides the experience they say it does, a 5 star experience, that actually uses way less water and feels as good or better than most shower heads out there, then I don't see a problem with the price.
I am excited to try this out!
@ourielohayon If it saves people money it is well worth the investment. This is especially true for gyms, hotels, and other entities that incur substantial water heating costs. On top of that there is the intrinsic value associated with being less wasteful and helping to conserve water.
@calc @ourielohayon you need to have a lot of water to save 300 USD of money
@ourielohayon They have a calculator on their site (which, admittedly, isn't an unbiased source). Taking one five-minute shower per day in NYC would save someone $63 per year (gas heating) / $163 (electric heating). Whether they're copied and sold at a cheaper price is another matter.
@calc @ourielohayon this is probably true (or close). My problem is that shower water saving is not something that is a needle mover (a drop in water?). Fixing the water saving issue has to be addressed where it really is: parks, golfs, pools, ...that being said it looks like a great product and if it was reasonably priced (99/150 USD range) it would probably be a big(ger) hit
How does the nebia affect the genius ideas i come up with during the shower? I know @rrhoover is very curious too. Highest priority in a shower, personally.
@eriktorenberg Absolutely the HIGHEST priority. I assume that it's a stellar idea that SHOULD be implemented if it comes to me in the shower đ
This looks absolutely awesome. I've wanted a smarter shower head for a while, especially one that is easy to "pause" while getting soap or something like that, without losing the temperature setting. Is that included in Nebia's design, @pwints28 @gparisiamon?
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@lachlanjc Hahaha, I love this video! The pause feature is something that we are strongly considering for the final version. It's good to hear that it is requested.
@pwints28 @lachlanjc I love the pause feature of Japanese showers. The savings from not using water when you don't really need it are huge!
The level of brilliance here is uncanny. Not only have they made a product that saves 70% of water on a normal shower, but they also claim it still delivers a good shower... I'm skeptical but listening.
I, along with everyone else on the planet, that's had a low pressure shower knows it feels nothing like a good shower. So how do we know (without trying it first hand) that this one has the feel of a high pressure shower? Oh, well they had it tested by some guy named Tim Cook, and a bunch of other folks with very high standards and respected opinions, and they loved it so much they invested in it.
I'll take 2.
@kristofertm Nebia is a totally new experience of water in a shower. What we've found with the over 500 testers is that it doesn't make sense to compare to "pressure" levels of a regular shower. This is a completely new sensation, soft immersive, people say much more relaxing.
Nebia is in the Summer 2015 batch of Y Combinator. The founders had over 500 people at Google, Apple, Equinox and YC test their water saving shower -- and they took the feedback from their early users and built something that is both beautifully designed and incredible feeling.
Is it possible for renters to instal and use these in a way that's not going to totally destroy their shower?
@zackshapiro Yes, the only mechanical connections to your wall are to the female 1/2" NPT (which is screwed in) and with adhesive. You can remove the bracket, peel the adhesive off the wall, and take Nebia with you.
This is fantastic! I've always wanted to get environmentally superior products, but they usually don't come with a good experience. The product design looks slick, and based on the testimonials in the video, it seems like it would be easy to install and give a pleasant shower experience.
I bet I can order a container of these from alibaba before the kickstarter is complete. not a bad thing, but just hard to compete at their price point when its a commodity that will def get copied.
- Whatâs the optimum incoming flow rate (in cubic centimeters per second) of both, hot and cold water, that this shower requires to function properly?
- Whatâs the maximum incoming pressure in bars that it will substain before suffering damage?
- Does it has a decalcification entry so proper regular mineral cleansing and disinfection could be done on location using the Venturi effect without dismantling the shower?
Would there be any way to avoid getting your hair wet, or would you have to wear a shower cap to pull that off?
@someear You can lower the showerhead and angle it 45 degrees, which allows you to avoid your head. However, the streams of water and mist can circulate up as well. If you want to stay completely dry I would use a shower cap, but if you want to just avoid your head, that is possible.
I would be rather focused on the experience rather than the savings. What are the other comparable products ?
Good luck, guys!) I am really confident that your product is needed by everyone.
Pros:It seems very simply and useful. I would like to try it! This shower can speed up the bathing process and save a lot of time in the morning.
Cons:There are no cons
Looks great, but without a jet mode... not so sure. You just cannot wash your privates with "mist" and feel clean afterwards. Which brings to question, why wasn't the handheld nozzle/head demonstrated in the video? Is that just a concept for now? Were that to have a jet mode, problem solved.
Also, it's a bit misleading to say that if you can change a light bulb you can install Nebia, and then have that list of requirements on another page - from pressure to wall stats. For example, my wall's water pipe is at thigh level, and that's where the current shower is connected. That means there would indeed be some broken tiles, and quite a lot of plumbing work.
Looks beautiful! Would love to try it out. I'm a bit like Kramer when it comes to showers: I need the highest pressure possible. If that's what I'm used to, how will Nebia compare?
Really neat stuff. Do you have any figures on how much money this could save the average household on a yearly basis? And/or environmental impact?
@andrewjdupree Yes, there is a calculator on our site, Nebia.com. You can see exactly how much you would save.
I have to admire the imagination and desire to conserve water. It would be fascinating to see this built in some kind of mobile showering unit for places where water is extremely limited.
Personally (and selfishly), it's hard to buy the incredible feeling of mist hitting me like a vegetable in the vegetable aisle. It's removing one of the best parts of a shower--the relaxing nature and sense of cleanliness. Feeling the streams of water hit. It's a clear signal that I'm getting clean. Similar to toothpaste tingling or lathering soap--these mental markers are important.
Other issues:
- Removing thick product from long hair looks like it would be a nightmare
- Performance / cleaning in hard water conditions
- A jet mode is really needed
- Not clear how this is different than other mist showerheads I've used/seen
Sounds wonderful, albeit a bit expensive for someone who doesn't have to pay for water, though, I think experiencing it is going to be the key to get me to pay out. Which also makes me wonder if it could deal with our rust, though earlier in the thread it was mentioned it is no more susceptible than other showers. I also have to wonder how this will impact moisture levels. We have a good fan, but I would think because it is atomized more finely, that more would reach other surfaces and be in the air.
This scares me because there is nothing worse than a shower that doesn't blast me with water. The feeling the shower gives you when there isn't enough pressure, it can just ruin your whole day. I love the idea of saving water though.
@ghobs91 Andrew, we deal with mineral deposits much the same way a regular shower does. They can be removed with a solution. Nebia is no more effected by mineral deposits than a regular shower.
The product looks cool. Here are my initial thoughts:
1. The adjustable height is good but not sure about the experience for a toddlers and kids. Since the shower doesn't use force, does water disperse away by the time it reaches 3 ft?
2. There are days where I really want a jet stream of water, is there a way for the product to have knobs and help me select?
2. Given the price of the product, I would have to try it to see if it is really worth the money. What is your return policy?
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