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Mattan Griffel
One Month iOS — Learn to build your first iPhone app in just one month
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Ryan Hoover
One Month HTML and One Month Rails were well-received a while back on Product Hunt. Great timing to launch an iOS course, @mattangriffel. This one's a bit different, offering hands-on mentorship in partnership with AirPair (cc @ilebovic, hence the higher price tag). Why did you go this direction this time?
Mattan Griffel
@rrhoover we consistently heard from people that the best part of One Month Rails and One Month HTML besides building an actual product was the hands on mentorship and feedback they were able to get, so we're trying this out as a different kind of online class (everyone starts together, gets great support, there's a community experience). It's definitely something new for us!
David Spinks
@mattangriffel congrats on the launch Matt. Will definitely check this out. nnLove the synchronized learning experience. We tested that model at feast and the community engagement levels were significantly higher with everyone going through it at the same time. I imagine you'll see the same. What platform are you using for community?
Mattan Griffel
@DavidSpinks we're using Discourse (http://www.discourse.org/) and most of it is publicly accessible at http://community.onemonth.com/. Discourse is pretty cool though it's somewhat inflexible and can be a headache to maintain.
Igor Lebovic
@rrhoover We wanted to combine the best parts of AirPair and One Month. Like @mattangriffel said, it's something new for both parties and we can't wait to see how our students and clients react to it.
Mattan Griffel
Hey Product Hunters! We're excited to bring you the newest One Month online course, a step-by-step guide to building an Instagram-like iPhone app using Apple's Swift. The course is being taught by our amazing friend @alfiehanssen, senior mobile engineer at Vimeo, and we've also teamed up with AirPair to offer live mentorship for all our students. Because of how hands on the course is, we're only opening up 30 spots exclusively to Product Hunt users, so sign up now and let me know if you have any questions :)
Craig Watson
Congrats @mattangriffel!
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We're super excited to be a part of making the OneMonth iOS course the best way for beginners to learn swift (with @airpair help)!
@marty
Hey @mattangriffel @alifehanssen! Course looks great. How many hours per day would someone need to spend working on it to take full advantage? Thanks!
Mattan Griffel
@mrty Thanks! It's designed to take about 30 minutes per day, or 2-3 hours a week if you want to take it over weekends
Erik Torenberg
yo @mattangriffel! excited to freestyle with you next time we hang :) what would you say are the biggest learning principles built into one-month that help students get more than they would elsewhere, and that will apply into your next verticals?
Mattan Griffel
@eriktorenberg happy to answer this, it's something we think about a lot. First and foremost, we think it's important to teach tools rather than bottom up learning. Studies show that leveraging tools actually improves conceptual understanding. By learning the tool, we actually master the discipline faster. Hands-on learning, and the use of tools, helps students want to learn, to get rapid feedback, and to actually grasp the ideas faster than memorizing facts from the bottom up. For example, that's why we show people how to actually set up their development environment, which is something a lot of other companies find too painful or specific to cover. Second, we only hire great teachers. Lots of companies hire consultants to build their curriculum and don't really have a quality vetting process. We focus on finding the best people who we know who really have something unique to bring to a topic, and then we apply the One Month approach to developing and quality testing the process. The result is that students love our courses and we've got some of the highest net promoter scores in education to prove it – 60% last I checked. Third, we listen to our students. No one else out there has hands-on support to help students when they run into problems or have questions. Our average response time to student questions is seven hours and that's why we're excited to pair with AirPair to make our support even stronger. We're constantly updating our curriculum to fix and test new lessons and concepts based on feedback we're getting from students.
Erik Torenberg
@mattangriffel awesome answer :)
Simon Schmid
Looks neat. I've done your rails course back then... How do you get the pre-launch exclusive?
Mattan Griffel
@s2imon @rrhoover actually reached out because he heard about it through the grapevine. Apparently I'm also Product Hunt user #27 (oldschool).
Ryan Hoover
@s2imon OG! I knew the community would dig this and I thought @mattangriffel might be up for giving PH early access. :)
Simon Schmid
@mattangriffel @rrhoover oh you still run our privacy policy on onemonth, proud of ya. Why u no running iubenda Ryan?! ;)
Abie Katz
What do you think of Swift vs Objective-C? It seems like Swift is significantly faster to learn but most iOS development is still done in Objective-C and it still is very unclear how popular Swift will get.
Mattan Griffel
@abiekatz We covered this a little bit on our blog: https://onemonth.com/swift-vs-ob... iOS development is still definitely done in Objective C because that's what most people know. Swift has barely been out for two weeks. But it's got Apple's full support, it's faster, and significantly easier to use. So I definitely think we're going to see people start moving to it. Of course there will be resistance and it might take a few months or years for Swift to become more popular than Objective C, but I think it's inevitable that it will happen.
Justin Mitchell
I'm intrigued, but it seems pricey when compared to other places like Code Academy and Team Treehouse. What's the advantage?
Mattan Griffel
@itsthisjustin we're better :) There are different products out there for different things. Codecademy is free but it's totally hands-off (plus they don't teach iOS development). So if you run into any problems or have any questions, there's no one to turn to. Codeschool is pretty similar. You pay for higher quality production – there are videos of the teacher and exercises in the browser, but they only teach you the concepts, they don't actually show you how to build an actual iOS app that you can run, submit to the app store, etc. Ultimately it's kind of like the difference between reading a book, which you can get for $20, and taking a class at a university, which costs tens thousands of dollars. We're trying to create the quality of the college learning experience but online and cheaper. And we're also focusing on showing beginners how to build their first iPhone apps, the WHOLE process from start to finish, which is not something anyone else is doing right now.
tom meagher
Solid PH exclusive.
Jamil Velji
One Month Rails was good, worth the cost but 6 hours of iOS is not really $899 good. BitFountain offered up +40 hours of content and 14 apps of tutorials for $99. The AirPair offer is a good mix into it but as a potential buyer I'm out. Way too expensive.
Mattan Griffel
@jamilvelji That's totally fair Jamil. There's tons of great free and cheap resources out there for learning iOS. We're trying to offer something different, and hopefully more valuable, than just tons of content that you have to wade through on your own. (Otherwise, just check out O'Reilly's series on iOS.) I remember someone once telling me, "If 30% of people aren't saying 'No' because your product is too expensive, then you're probably not charging enough." And that has stuck with me. We wanted to provide one of the highest quality online learning experiences so we thought hard about how much we'd have to charge for that and how we could justify it. Anyway, I'm happy to hear more about what specifically would make you change your mind. What else would you like to see included, or does the price itself make enrollment out of the question? Shoot me an email at mattan@onemonth.com if you want to talk.
Jamil Velji
@mattangriffel Will you end up offering it as a course only in the way One Month Rails was? I would definitely be all over it at that point. Mainly because I have my own contacts to bug and ask questions when I'm stuck but getting through one solid Swift app is a solid way to get going. Either way One Month Rails was awesome and thanks for that eh!
Preet
this is awesome. If you guys opened it up, I would pay for this as a perk for our employees.
Christopher Michael
@preetnation Hey Preet, We have an enterprise list for companies separate from our public launch. Email me chris @ onemonth.com and I can tell you more.
Mesh Lakhani
Nice work Mattan! Like you've mentioned before, people want to learn code to build a product. Great approach.
Phone Crusher
Looks like a great course. Joined the list!
Will Lam
I can see the value of what you guys are offering, but the wait list and subsequent email campaigns informing of spots opening up for those on the wait list etc reeks of scarcity tactics and feels a bit contrived.