Good episode. I enjoyed @barelyknown thought process on the matter. There is definitely a lot of truth in his opinion at macro level. On micro level, I think motivations are not so rational, especially on individual level. In the episode @barelyknown mentioned his background. Which clear up a lot of his previous opinions for me and I think I get his point better now.

One episode - even a sort of long one! - isn't enough for this topic. But, I'm glad that we started the conversation. I'm anxious to hear listener points-of-view. We'll be sure to cover the most interesting follow up on the next episode. Topics that we didn't get to (at least not completely) that I'm interested in are: - Ruby Together: Funding open source infrastructure seems slightly different to me than open source software, and this is a mix of those two. Seems very surprising that it can be a non-profit - I'd like to learn more about that. - What if you like open source software but dislike capitalism (which is a pretty common sentiment!)? Does the fact that OSS is "weaponized" by technocapitalists mean that OSS is "bad"? I don't think so --- I think that it's just a case of strange bedfellows. - Why do so many companies open source huge software investments that they make? Is it just to outsource maintenance to volunteers? My take: maybe sometimes that's the motivation, but I think that it's more commonly a "perk" given to employee developers - something that has been informally collectively bargained for. - What does the massive success of open source software teach us about the world? What other parts of our society and economy could be transformed if a segment of the population banded together to invest in a shared/free infrastructure? Certainly education... What else? What did we miss? What did we get wrong? When will I stop shivering?

This was a rather interesting discussion with @barelyknown. I didn't really go into this with strong feelings about money in open source but the social contract is real.