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Second V2 — AI powered codebase maintenance
Second provides automated codebase maintenance, including codebase migrations and upgrades. Connect Second to your GitHub repo, select a maintenance module like AngularJS to React, review the AI agent plan, and run the job.
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@ena_gluhakovic We think it's pretty intuitive – connect to a repo, select a maintenance module, run a job, and get a PR. You have the power to modify the STEP plans in YAML, or create custom maintenance modules as well. You can check our docs for more info https://docs.second.dev/
Gamechanger! Congrats @ericdrowell and team on an impressive V2 - I will definitely be sharing it every chance I get 🤘🏼
@karanveer Use both! AI assistants in the IDE are great for building new features, making small enhancements to targeted areas of the codebase, or debugging. For codebase maintenance like migrations, upgrades, or tasks that can be defined with rules and patterns (like an AI-powered codemod) which need to operate on hundreds or thousands of files, Second is a great choice.
Hi Eric!
This is a game-changer for maintaining legacy codebases and focusing on innovation. The range of maintenance tasks Second V2 covers is impressive. Can't wait to connect it to a few of my projects and see the magic happen. The freedom to let human engineers innovate while AI handles the tedious tasks is a dream come true. Will definitely share my experience after using it! Keep up the fantastic work!
Hi Eric! This is a super cool idea. I have a small question: what level of code does this generate? Are we getting super basic HTML,CSS, js or simple react components like most tools or is something great here?
@kshetez_vinayak You should be getting really high quality code changes, as if a very senior level engineer did the work
This is really cool stuff, congrats on the launch! Could it do even really old-school stuff, e.g. migrate banking software in Fortran to e.g. Go?
@matijash Great question! Today we only support git-based transformations (code that lives in GitHub, Bitbucket, or Gitlab). However, we do plan to also support the migration of mainframe languages like COBOL and Fortran, in particular to help modernize banking software.
Congrats on the launch Eric 🚀 Excited to try out Second, currently stuck at Vue 2 and planning to upgrade to Vue 3, your tool would be super useful for me.
I wonder though, from business perspective, how manageable would it be in long term to keep the customer in after the codebase upgrade has happened successfully?
@abzal_assembekov Thanks! If you look at large engineering organizations, about 50% of all engineering effort is spent on maintenance. In addition to migrations and upgrades (which are less recurring), there are other more recurring maintenance needs like feature flag management, design system component updates, test maintenance, any tech change from X to Y, etc etc
@abzal_assembekov Yea! Second is designed specifically for large codebases at large engineering organizations.
Congratulations on the launch. The site has broken reviews on the mobile version. But the site looks good.
@ruslan_kulikov Hah thanks! Yes we are still getting approvals for more social proofs, and our Webflow carousel was giving us some issues. Will get fixed up!
Congrats on the launch of Second V2! 🎉 I love the feature that automates tasks like AngularJs to React and JavaScript to TypeScript migrations. It really saves developers time.
Love seeing this evolution of Second! The passion and pursuit in crafting this powerful resource for engineers is inspiring to see.
V2 looks even more impactful to these kinds of workflows and it's exciting to see how many more engineers can benefit from Second.
@rileyj_s Thanks Riley! We're obsessed with helping developers automate work they don't want to do!
This is AMAZING! I'm an amateur coder, but definitely have already run into this issue many times, and am super excited about the free tier. Awesome work! 🙌
Autonomous software maintenance is the future! I love what Second is building and have been supporting and following for a while now. Let’s go!!!
It sounds really really exiting!
But i have a hard time seeing the example in the video with Angular -> React migration for a complex project, how that would work out, without having to go through a vast bundle of manual changes afterwards
BUT when everything is said, with AI in the mix, i am still to be amazed every day by stuff made with AI.
@fundergainz You can try it out! Just create an account, connect to an existing AngularJS repo or select one of our example repos, select the AngularJS to React module (Angular to React is still in alpha), and then hit run. The idea is to do about 95% of the heavy lifting, implementing common strategies with this type of migration
@ericdrowell This makes sense!
So there is some adapting to do after the initial “lift”.
Great project and idea, i like it!
AI programming is something that excites every programmer, but to be honest, no one has yet produced a product with a reliable success rate (not just a problem with LLMs 🧠, there are many other things to do as well).
Second, taking a different approach, chose to start with code frameworks and language migration. These patterns are easy to constrain and optimize, which can **greatly increase the success rate**.
I believe you will definitely do many things in the future to achieve the ultimate goal of AI completing programming tasks, and I look forward to it!
@cestivan Exactly! We focus on use cases that we believe we can produce excellent results for our users
Congratulations Eric on your product launch!
I have tried Second V1 and now V2. It's impressive to see the completed Pull Request on my GitHub repository.
I wish it existed when I had to migrate Node.js applications from callback-based to Promise-based and then adopt async-await while a colleague taking care of the front-end had to migrate from Angular.js 1 to further versions one by one.
Currently, our team is converting the Ruby-on-Rails project to Node.js and Java Springboot. I hope all the companies out there are doing some kind of migration. Second comes into the world at the right time, utilizing Generative AI at its best use.
I would love to see support for Android applications as well so that I can migrate my rusted Android app that supports only up to Android 4.4 to the latest version quickly by cheating and relaunching it. :)
@raviraj_subramanian More maintenance modules will be coming! You can also build your own if you want to get ahead of it – https://docs.second.dev/
@joshpxyne Yea! We support any git-based language. Although we currently only have a handful of maintenance modules that are off-the-shelf, our customers today are already building their own maintenance modules that meet their specific needs. Check out https://docs.second.dev/ for more info.
The idea that my already existing code can be swapped over to an entirely different framework with a few clicks and a YAML file is incredible. Congratulations on the launch, Second!
Congrats Eric; Product looks great and impact to developers would be immense. It's a great design choice that you allow users to be strategically involved in the action. Excited to hear more updates on your product!
@billy_choi Thank you!! Yea we have a lot of exciting new features coming soon, including a Cursor-style chat box so that you can chat with the STEP YAML
Congratulations on the launch of Second V2, @ericdrowell! How do you ensure that the AI agent delivers high-quality and reliable automated migrations and upgrades consistently?
@laocool we have a proprietary system called STEP (Software Transformation Execution Plan) which are pre generated, high fidelity plans that the AI execution agent uses to transform a codebase. Without it, AI agents will produce a ton of code drift and garbage results. It's the difference between hype and production capability!
Great idea, pain point for the industry that will only get more painful over time... Excited to leverage this for:
-rebuilding some legacy code into TypeScript
-automating testing
In general I'd love to gain leverage as I build out my development infrastructure and applications
@matt_mcdonagh Yea, we've also had users migrate test frameworks like Enzyme to RTL, identify and remove low value tests with rules, and also generate unit tests.
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