p/shapescale
A scale that digitizes your body in photorealistic 3D! 💪
Hiten Shah
ShapeScale — A scale that digitizes your body in photorealistic 3D! 💪
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ShapeScale is a 3D personal body scanner, scale and fitness tracker that digitizes your body in photorealistic 3D. Its companion app then shows you where exactly you have been gaining muscle and losing fat by color-grading your 3D avatar.

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Hiten Shah
ShapeScale is the first personal 3D body scanner. You step on it and get scanned in less than a minute. It is a new kind of health device. ShapeScale has a clever heat map feature that color-grades your body image so that you can visually track changes that are so small that your eyes can't see them. This is great for anyone who is looking to get in better shape and struggles to keep track of their fitness and diet progress. Regular scales fluctuate too much in weight and are known to be inaccurate when it comes to body fat. Beyond fitness, there will be a range of other possible applications for technology like this, so I'm intrigued to see where it goes in the future.
Matt Galligan
@hnshah Just a heads up, the Naked scanner debuted a year ago (also pre-order) https://naked.fit/
Chris Messina
Top Hunter
@mg that was my thought! #firstNotFirst
Tom Bielecki
@mg @hnshah Has it shipped?
Mike Coutermarsh
Love seeing innovation in this space. I currently get dexa scans every 2-3 months. How similar are your results? Have you been comparing to DXA?
Martin Kessler
@mscccc Hey Mike so ShapeScale is closer to hydrostatic weighing. We take your body measures with highest accuracy and calculate your body volume to get your body fat and lean mass. ShapeScale comes in pretty close but won't be quite as accurate and we won't be able to measure your visceral body fat since we are only measuring what's outside. Having said that, a DXA can't give you your girth and visual feedback. Plus like you said you cannot do them every day within your own four walls!
Ricky Yean
Woohoo! TechHive has the best video so far: http://www.techhive.com/article/...
Tom Bielecki
What happens if your posture/pose changes between shots? Is that compensated for? And how does it know what is fat and what is muscle?
Martin Kessler
@tombielecki That's really where a lot of our software tech comes into play. For tracking related scans, we use computer vision and data science to correct for posture, breathing and to some extend bloating so that every scan is realigned and cross-comparable. Fat and lean mass is differentiated through body density and volumetric measures as found in hydrostatic weighing. Now, ShapeScale can also segment your different body parts for volume which you cannot do with underwater weighing since your entire body replaces the water. Just wanted to add that ShapeScale cannot measure your absolute muscle mass (lean mass is bodyweight less body fat so it includes also bone, tissue, organ mass, etc). However, the weight of your organs isn’t going to change much, and although your bone density can change over time, it isn’t going to affect the weight of your Lean Body Mass too significantly. What can significantly influence your Lean Body Mass is the second type of mass in question: muscle mass. That's why we focus on relative change in lean mass in our graphs because that's what really important. Hope that makes sense.
Ben Munson
I mostly want this to track my kids' growth.
Martin Kessler
@munsonbh We actually have gotten this comment from quite a few folks. Some even would like to 3D print their kids. 😉
Ben Munson
@kesslerio I sure don't want to watch myself age! For the kids, I would want a "lifetime" purchase tier that includes the device and way-way-way more privacy.
Martin Kessler
@munsonbh Haha, I completely understand! We have now changed the 5-year tier to a lifetime tier. In terms of privacy, we frankly have no interest in scans of your kids. Generally Shape employees won't be able to view any individual scans. What's more, we will only (optionally) collect anonymized data in aggregate on the fitness tracking scans to improve the body model algorithms that are needed to realign scans for posture etc. Freestyle scans and generally any scans from someone underaged will have complete privacy as they do not really help us to make the service better. In terms of security, we will be on par with any other cloud storage solution's best practices such as encrypting all data in motion.
Nick Zieber
Super proud of you guys Martin and Alexandre - going from Hong Kong to YC to bringing Shape Scale to market. I'll definitely be buying one.
Martin Kessler
@nzieber Thanks, Nick! It's been a long journey. Hope to pay Hong Kong a visit soon enough again! 🙂
Ashish Aggarwal
Fit3d (https://www.fit3d.com/) have existed for many years and have already shipped 100+ products globally. I don't think they are the first one to do it.
Natasha Baker
This is one of the best ideas I've seen in a long time. So many people get demoralized when starting a new workout routine because they don't see results on their standard scales, which only measure one number. With Shapescale, they'd actually be able to see lean muscle mass growing, fat dropping, and would be motivated to keep going. Can't wait to give it a try!
Martin Kessler
Hey! Excited to be on Product Hunt today! 😀 We've spent over two years working on the best device to keep track your physical fitness and appearance. ShapeScale naturally complements existing fitness trackers and health apps that already keep track of your activities and diet. ShapeScale was born out of our own frustration that to-date there is simply no good way of keeping track of whether one’s daily diet and exercises are actually delivering the results we have been hoping for. There’s nothing more frustrating than not knowing whether your hard work is actually paying off! For us fitness is the natural first application that works without scale (no pun intended!), but beyond fitness and health we see many other great applications such as virtual fitting rooms, tailor-made clothing, virtual reality avatars and even things such as custom-made furniture and wearables (tailor-made to your individual shape!). We have a special deal for all product hunters, simply use promo code: PRODUCTHUNT ✌
Martin Kessler
@pakhzar haha good one. We'll definitely go with something robust like a good mailer package, but yes we'll have to put some good thinking into the packaging later this year.
Aaron Frye
I really hope your team is talking to video game developers and hardware companies like Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony.
Dan Rosenshain
Looks very cool. How many data points does an average model consists of?
Alexandre Wayenberg
@danr_4 The raw meshed data has now more than one million vertex per scans but here are actually more points captured because of sampling. If you count in term of amount of data points from the sensors there are approximatively 30 fps * 1280 pixels * 720 pixels * 45 s = 1.2B data points. That's only on the 3D scan data. We are though simplifying the models to make them more portable while keeping them accurate.
Victor Pinho
I know this isn't rocket science but I didn't expect to see something like this before 2020
Alexandre Wayenberg
@vict_r Thanks Victor, really makes us happy to hear that we are bringing the future to you.
Eric Glyman
Super cool, will make going to the gym great (and so much more data driven)! Why break out the split on hardware/software subscription costs? Is this a common approach on the health industry?
Dan Lucas
@eglyman - Similar thoughts here. Interesting product, but does the world need a scale that requires a $10+ monthly subscription?
Martin Kessler
@eglyman Hey Eric, we have been contemplating long and hard about this and we have actually tried both during a private roll out with our subscriber list. Subscriptions turned out to work better for most by dramatically lowering our customers' upfront costs by over $200. Besides that there's of course more to it, the cloud processing of high res and photorealistic 3D scans take up a lot of space and bandwidth that need to be paid for. After the first year users will be able to downgrade to a free plan that will allow them to scan and keep one scan stored for general measures and other non-health apps such as virtual fitting rooms, tailor-made clothes and more.
Phil Benham
Ah-maze-ing! I absolutely love it! If it weren't for the cost being product + subscription, I would have bought it yesterday. Unfortunately, I'll never get the chance to use it since I can't see subscribing in addition to purchasing the physical product. Product = Big Win! Subscription model = FAIL! IMHO...
Martin Kessler
@thephilbenham Hey Phil, let me ask this then, would you buy at $599 ($499 with PH deal) without the subscription?
Phil Benham
@kesslerio I just don't buy on impulse (I get that many do); plus, I see that I wouldn't get one until 2018. But at the price you mentioned above, I would put it on my 'to buy' list and save up for it, definitely! Might take a couple of months to save for that one time purchase...although I'm sure it would be worth it. If you have to do the monthly, no, I wouldn't save up to buy the device.
Martin Kessler
@thephilbenham So we just changed the 5-year plan to lifetime. We definitely have lovers and haters for both models, so it's really best to give everyone the choice. If you had the choice to lock in pricing now with a $99 reservation deposit, would that be more impulse-worthy? 😉
Shahar Yakir
I think this is the most incredible PH listing I have seen to date. Way to go!
@Bernardamus
I see it as a super useful tool for online shopping matching your actual clothing sizes! Finally!
Alexandre Wayenberg
@bernardamus Yes that's one of the application we enable, that's why we are capturing photorealistic scans.
Tristan Tao
Prototype was already awesome, can't wait to see what the production version is like!
Martin Kessler
@tao_tristan Thanks! Can't wait to start shipping! 🙂
Florian Simmendinger
Fantastic concept and execution. Good luck!
Martin Kessler
@simmenfl Thanks.
Robyn Exton
This is AWESOME. Do you guys have plans for nutrition input in the software as well?
Alexandre Wayenberg
@robynexton Hi Robyn, yes it's the natural next step. But we need to focus first on offering our user the user experience for tracking their progress.
Douglas Evaristo