@mzuvella Thanks It's not impossible. However Gmail is really good at algorithms, so it's no surprise they went the route they did with bundles on their Inbox product. And I suspect that they will continue to provide smart ways of filtering and getting through the clutter. That's not really what Sortd is about - it's more of an organizer that you can put your emails on. We're developing the mobile app at the moment - hope to have something out by end of Q1 this year. We don't intend to compete with existing mobile email apps for now, but there will be ways to see and manage what's on your Sortd lists. It will also have integration points to be able to add emails to Sortd from whatever mobile app you already use.

@golocalapps That's all that matters most of the time!

@ajwaxman Gmail shortcuts should work fine in Sortd. Did you try one that isn't working?

@waynesilby @ajwaxman I really like Sortd, but one major issue I've been having is using gmail shortcuts with Sortd. It looks like some things work, but others get overridden when emails are open (to the right). Labeling is a little funky, and hitting the enter/return key doesn't result in labeling the email with the topmost result like gmail allows you normally. I'd also like to multi-select and then drag all those into a list, which doesn't seem possible (or isn't obvious to me). Otherwise, dragging one by one is super slow especially on a laptop.

@waynesilby @ajwaxman Also looks like starring doesn't work (s for starring and unstarring as a shortcut)

@chrismessina Will look into that. It's quite tough making sure it's compatible with all the Gmail extensions out there, because it's not really a managed ecosystem. All of the players in this space are doing some fancy footwork to get these products to work well with Gmail. @olofster @chanpory @bradvogel perhaps it's time for a Gmail Extensions association...

@olofster yeah, I know it's tough since the Gmail FE isn't technically a "platform" for others to hook into (even Gmail Labs seems in disrepair). For now I guess I'll have to cycle through these extensions and see which works best. FWIW, I'd really love it if you integrated with Mailplane, since that's how I prefer to use Gmail.

@chrismessina yeah in part this is what we’re solving for. Mixmax gives platform access to email, so anyone can bring an app into email with Mixmax to improve their productivity. Fwiw, think it works fine actually as long as sortd lives on the side vs. replacing the entire inbox:)

@waynesilby no response?

@mrahmadawais Still no reply?

@jasonhitchcock It's on our product roadmap. I can't make promises re the timing, but it is a priority.

@jasonhitchcock would def pay for this

@rrhoover There are of course exceptions like Mailbox and Acompli who have done ok ;-) But the fact that so many have tried and failed is testament to the fact that email is in dire need of fixing and, right up there with world peace, we have hopes for a world with better email! If you are like me, you live in your Inbox all day, but using it to stay on top of stuff is pure chaos. The Inbox was never meant to be a ToDo list, but that’s how I use it (I even email myself to get stuff into my Inbox, all the time). My team felt the same way - so this all started when we decided we would just solve our own email problems :-) Our first thought was ‘surely by now someone has fixed email’. After a lot of research it just seemed that no one had really nailed it (@paulg also makes mention of this in his talk on the biggest startup ideas - http://youtu.be/R9ITLdmfdLI?t=7m34s). The big fish in the space weren’t innovating enough (I guess that’s something that happens with big fish). And while there were some interesting new email apps out there, most of them required you to abandon the email app you already use (the one with all your data, where you know how to find everything). It’s painful moving to a new app for something like email when you rely on it so heavily. We figured that we could build a really simple and effective solution by complementing the email application people use already. Gmail was a perfect fit because we could extend it in the browser and there are loads of people who use it for work email (which is where Sortd really shines). So in short – email seems to have some inherent problems, and while other companies have tried to reinvent it, we think we have cracked a really simple and practical way to manage it with an organization-first approach. Sortd also leverages a lot of the underlying stuff that Gmail does well, so rather than reinventing the wheel we were able to focus solely on the part that we feel is missing from email - a really visual and intuitive way to organize it in the context of your tasks & priorities. Plus you only live once and we were looking for a big hairy challenge to keep things exciting :-) On a serious note, we wanted to work on something relevant to ourselves and millions of other people – fixing email is it!

@rrhoover @paulg @waynesilby Email is one of those dragons I'd love to challenge, but just wouldn't know where to start. I like gmail, yet hate their basic format. I end up using Active Inbox and Streak to create better workflow within gmail, and you'd think several of those tools would be in basic gmail. The primary window most everyone stares at all day is email. But I don't just need email. I need my tasks, projects and calendar. So I use different apps/websites for each and hack them all together one way or the other. And I think we've all sent ourselves an email as a task (which I hate). I think the foundations of email needs an overhaul in a way that will let people use it in new ways outside of the current sets of hacks. I just don't know what that would look like, but I know what I wish it would do. My wife really likes Sortd. She had some issues here and there, but overall find it makes her gmail experience better (and she hates gmail). Her one suggestion is she'd like the emails in sorted to be unread then read which it doesn't currently do. So she moves from gmail view to sortd as she needs.

@rrhoover @paulg @golocalapps You are right that the foundation of email needs an overhaul. The problem is that everybody uses email - it's a standard - it's a way to reach someone based on an addressing scheme. The likes of Slack are creating alternate ways to communicate that are better in many ways for team communication, but email is still going to be around for a long long time (mainly because people expect to be able to contact other people that way). What's interesting is that email should really just be a way to communicate, but often work is generated based on email conversations. It's generated from other forms of communication too (like Slack, Skype and even Whatsapp these days), but the pain point is in dealing with all the work that comes from the conversations you have every day (especially when you also have to invest time triaging and 'cleaning up' so you don't miss anything). What we've tried to do with Sortd is add to the foundation by introducing the missing pieces that deal with organization (tasks, the idea of priority etc). So in a way, we've extended the protocol without the need to dig in and change what's already there. We have a long way to go before we've covered all the bases but I think we're headed in the right direction. Re your wife's suggestion to mark items read/unread, I'm not sure what you mean - it works the same way Gmail does, so when you have viewed a message it's marked as read. It synchronises with the underlying Mailbox via Imap though, so you might notice small delays updating to mobile for example.

@rrhoover @paulg @waynesilby My wife may read an email and then mark it as unread so she knows there is a task in it. In Gmail she can sort emails by Unread first, then Read emails. In sortd, if she has a list of emails (from what I understand about how it works) they don't sort by read/unread emails. Unread first, then all the read emails in the list. If you ever want to discuss (via email HA!) further, feel free to contact me.This is a pet peeve of mine that i'd love to see someone fix.

@rrhoover @paulg @golocalapps We are just about to release a new feature to improve on that exact experience, so I'd love to hear your thoughts. And your wife's :) What's your email add? Otherwise pls email me at wayne@sortd.com.