EP 541: VerticalIQ Hits $175k MRR, Helping 140 Banks Prep for Company Meetings with President Bobby Martin — VerticalIQ Hits $175k MRR, Helping 140 Banks
In Episode #541, I interview Bobby Martin, the author of The Hockey Stick Principles: The Four Key Stages to Entrepreneurial Success. He believes too many startup founders pivot way too early, quit too early, and expect rapid take off. Through his experience of starting and selling First Research, he’s learned firsthand the challenges and solutions at each stage of entrepreneurial growth. Bobby’s currently the chairman and co-founder of Vertical IQ—a leading provider of sales research insight for banks. He’s an angel investor and an active board member with several innovative startups including Local Eyesight, Boardroom Insiders, My Life Site, SageWorks and etailinsights. While he’s a national speaker, he’s still a hometown guy who focuses most of his investments in North Carolina where he’s lived and worked.
Famous Five:
Favorite Book? – Rework
What CEO do you follow? – Brian Hamilton
Favorite online tool? — Salesforce
Do you get 8 hours of sleep?— No
If you could let your 20-year old self, know one thing, what would it be? – Be patient for a long journey
Time Stamped Show Notes:
01:42 – I introduce Bobby to the show
02:53 – First Research was launched in 1999
03:19 – Bobby had the exit before the bubble
03:31 – First Research provided profiles to sales and marketing professionals
03:51 – First Research is a SaaS business
04:11 – It took 7-8 years for Bobby to build First Research
04:42 – Bobby made the book because he loved the process
05:09 – Bobby loved the journey
05:26 – Bobby had a publisher and agent for the book
06:00 – Bobby’s agent negotiated the deal with the publisher
06:28 – Bobby’s book was just recently published
06:41 – The average number of copies sold
07:30 – Bobby shares what he thinks made the book sell
08:57 – Bobby is an angel investor
09:40 – Vertical IQ provides profile revenue to bankers
10:19 – The revenue model of Vertical IQ is similar to SaaS
10:30 – Vertical IQ gets paid upfront annually
10:43 – Average number of customers
10:55 – “We don’t charge per seat, we charge according to the number of bankers”
11:20 – Vertical IQ pre-sells to banks
12:05 – ACV is between $15-20K annually
12:28 – Average ARR
12:40 – Gross customer churn
13:25 – Average CAC
13:34 – Vertical IQ is a sales driven company
14:04 – Vertical IQ has a solid profit margin
14:55 – LTV
15:53 – Team size
16:40 – First year revenue
16:58 – 2015 total revenue
17:15 – Vertical IQ is self-funded
19:00 – The Famous Five
3 Key Points:
Write a book—not because it’s convenient—write because you have something to share to the world.
Requesting an upfront annual payment can have clear advantages over monthly payments.
Be patient and do not get discouraged—the entrepreneurial journey takes time.