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Bespoke, by Trellis — Generate a custom podcast with AI
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Interested in learning more about something? With bespoke, you can create bite-sized podcasts at the press of a button, courtesy of AI host Matilda! Enter a topic, choose from ideas, and vote on your favorite. Every day, the fan-favorite is shared on Spotify.
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Jasmine Wang
Bespoke is Trellis' first experiment in custom media & entertainment experiences powered by AI. In the future, I'm excited about a world where we're able to reference high-quality sources like books, podcasts, & beloved websites (while also directing traffic back to those same creators for the long-form original content), & social curation of your bespoke library by the friends + community you learn alongside with. Would absolutely love feedback from folks on what they'd like to see more of from a product that creates custom audio experiences. We'd love bespoke to become a product that you use everyday to generate a custom daily digest on the topics you care about. Please share what you make! We'd love to listen to podcasts people generate! We're publishing the most upvoted generated podcast every day as an episode in our "Hall of Fame" Bespoke podcast. You can subscribe to that podcast & listen here: https://open.spotify.com/show/7D... Thank you all for trying this out!
Evan Stites-Clayton
This was such a fun project to be a part of building. I love imagining a world where we can all get exactly the content we want, pumped into our ears and perfect for us. There's so many topics I want to learn about through an Audible book or podcast type experience, but there's often not a perfect match for me to listen to. I can't wait to see how this evolves and I'm curious to ask how you are thinking about generating longer form content? Seems like the podcasts are all about 2 or 3 minutes right now but I want to go deeper on subjects.
Jasmine Wang
@the_esc Yay! It was so fun collaborating. Imagining the experience to be *actually* 100% customizable essentially through natural language (the power of LLMs!) or interaction with your calendar (e.g. fitting into your free time slots); definitely at minimum would allow users to specify any length. We put this in place for cost reasons & as a free prototype!
jeremy h
@the_esc @jasmine_wang Yes it'd be so cool to have longer-form podcasts, especially ones that are well-grounded in the relevant material. E.g. if I could listen to a 1-hour podcast on what Deleuze might have thought about climate, or a 1-hour podcast on Nietzsche and Buddhism. Or an even simpler and more seamless experience - I'd just tell the app how long I have to listen at a given time each day (e.g. 45 mins), and with its knowledge of what I'm interested in, it just generates a podcast that I'd like.
Stedman Blake Hood
Super cool! Listened to the elecromagnetism one which i know nothing about... so if it hallucinated, i didn't notice :P
Warren Apel
People have been saying "one of these days, Netflix will be creating custom TV and movies" and that day seems so far away. And then you listen to a Bespoke podcast (I did "Behavioral Economics in the Movies") and it's like "dang. That day is already here." Also, I think "Bespoke" is one of the best names for a new product in years.
Naoto Shibata
Exited to see your product! Congrats on your great launch. Can I embed generated podcast to our website?
Sam Littlefair
This is so cool!
Evan Stites-Clayton
@samlfair Thank you :)
Nicole Shum
great product for a common pain point of content discovery. your friends can refer you to great media but ultimately personalizing the experience especially to topic AND time is incredible. (as long as the content is generated in a tone/style you prefer. i find that even the narrators voice for audiobooks makes a huge difference for me)
Evan Stites-Clayton
@nicole_shum1 What tone / style do you find yourself preferring? Is there an existing podcast that you really like listening to?
Ryan Brandt
So cool. This reminds me of when I first used Blink, which did a really similar thing but curated and human driven. I remember at the time wishing I could personalize those blinks and listen to them on demand. Bespoke is leading the pack and beginning the era of personalized and custom made content. The way you can essentially create audiobooks on demand is incredible. So many things I want to learn about but the material is too dense to get into. Obvious next steps would be longer podcasts, different voices, options for dialogue to get multiple “POV” when there are multiple ways to interpret a subject. Also figuring out partnerships to legally get the latest papers and textbooks into the app to keep content fresh.
Daniel Schreiber
This is really cool! I made a few podcasts https://www.readtrellis.com/besp... & I'd love to be able to add in data sources so that the information was more trustworthy.
Evan Stites-Clayton
@daniel_schreiber1 oooooh Love the idea of being able to add information sources, that's really smart and not something that we thought about as far as I know. Just gave your Marvel podcast an upvote :)
Luba Yudasina
this looks really cool, congrats trellis team!!
Evan Stites-Clayton
@lifeofluba Thank you so much for the support @lifeofluba :)
Christine Hong
Super interesting! So curious to see where you plan on taking this next.
Evan Stites-Clayton
@itschristinehong One of the big next steps would be to generate custom length podcasts and for that to work we need to build a better prompt chain for building out compelling longform content.
Siddharth Pandiya
Love this so much! The fact that the top comment is about the need to implement vote limits 😂 can’t wait to use this to learn more about the Roman Empire :)
Evan Stites-Clayton
@pandiyasid Can you send a link to the podcast that you made? Would love to check it out :)
Brennie Pellegrini
This looks super cool!!
Sai Abishek Bhaskar
Really cool! Would love to have options to customize the generated audio
Cathy Chen
This is awesome!! when do you think y’all can do longer episodes that can go more in depth
david grossblatt
Very cool implementation. The way we communicate with the Internet is radically changing in fascinating and impactful ways.
Anna Wang
This is so cool! It's lightning fast at generating, too. I used it to learn about how humans shifted from hunting & gathering to agriculture.
Evan Stites-Clayton
@anna_wang5 Interesting topic! Would you be down to share the link to your podcast? I want to listen and upvote you on Bespoke haha.
Caden Felton
Unreal -- wild to see how this + Trellis's core product makes for delightful ways to engage with and digest information, on your own terms. Excited to see what's next!
Caden Felton
:) Need the next episode! https://www.readtrellis.com/besp...
Ryan Hoover
This space is fascinating. Historically content has been primary "created and pushed" but gen AI is enabling a new form of "pull and create" where users can summon the type of content, stories, and media they want to consume. @mariogabriele has a good post on this called Endless Media.
Evan Stites-Clayton
@mariogabriele @rrhoover Love the Pull and Create. This was actually very similar to what allowed Teespring to succeed as a commerce platform - rather than a create and push for products, it moved things more into a pull model and that saturated a bunch of unmet market demands.
Keyur Ahuja
@mariogabriele @rrhoover Great article Ryan...it's going to be a surreal future...Great time to be alive. Here is one more fascinating read on the topic that I read a while ago: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinio...