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Vivaldi 1.0 — A new browser from the original Opera co-founder
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@rrhoover Thank you for mentioning that. Most people take their browser for granted. Yet we spend so much time with one.
I think our plan is to focus on making a browser that is both more powerful and more personal. It will adapt to the user. Chrome, Firefox, Safari and Opera have all tried to simplify. We want to add. To build in features that people love, that help them accomplish more, that make things faster and more convenient. Ultimately, our vision is to keep the user as the focus and build the things our users want to see. We'll be the browser that responds to their wishes.
Vivaldi (alpha) has been posted on Product Hunt before but today is actually their official 1.0 (beta) launch day. More on that here.
@nikkielizdemere Was about to hunt this earlier but felt it already had been hunted pre 1.0 Any rules about hunting pre / post beta?
Thanks everyone for checking out Vivaldi. We've made a lot of progress thanks to your help. And today we're launching Vivaldi 1.0 Final. Some of the new things you might like are:
Sessions: save a set of open tabs so you can load them later
Tab hibernation: right-click on a tab to set it to hibernate. Then it won't consume resources, so you can have many tabs open.
And some old favorites, like Notes, Tab Stacks, Web Panels, and many others
But of course, more than features, Vivaldi is about customization. Our browser should adapt to you.
Looking forward to your feedback.
@jonsvt I love makers, but let me ask you: why another browser? especially since all of these features are implementable by extensions on every other browser platform, what would make me use this new one?
@thejeremycarson We feel that all major browsers are becoming very similar in terms of functionalities. We wanted to build a powerful browser that offers much richer set of features that allows users to personalise their experience.
Our focus is providing as many functionalities and choice as possible out of the box.
We believe everyone is different. We wear different clothing, drive different cars, decide to live in different parts of the world. We all make different choices yet there is not much choice when it comes to browsers, which many of us spend significant amounts of time using.
Yes, it's possible to download extensions to add features and that's good. Vivaldi is also compatible with Chrome extensions and you can download them from the Chrome Web store. However, we want to offer as many features as possible so that you don't need to search/find/install/evaluate extensions, which could have some negative impact on performance as well as on privacy.
Anyway, try out Vivaldi and see what you think.
@jonsvt I want to like it, but there are still issues for me. I'm a heavy user of the 'Save to Pocket" Chrome extension which seems to reliably crash Vivaldi 1.0 with just about every click. :-( I'll keep my eye out for 1.1.
This has a lot of potential but I really dislike the Vivaldi logo in the top left of my browser windows. Can it be relocated or disabled? Opera and Vivaldi are the only browsers in the market that display something in that area and it's annoying.
@livejamie Not yet, but your request is noted. As I've said in different places before, we want the browser to adapt to you, not the other way around.
@jonsvt Awesome, I could see this being my primary browser once that's addressed. Any mobile plans?
@livejamie We're going to make one. But there is still much to deliver for the desktop browser.
The only thing I tossed Vivaldi immediately after the first version came out that hasn't changed yet: You can't export. If you wanna move to an other browser you can't export your stuff so you either will have super hard time or won't move to an other browser.
I really like it. Seems to be even quicker at loading some things than Chrome... which is surprising. But, I'm not sure it will replace Chrome for me... Especially for development purposes, but well done nonetheless.
@gaelle_lo Haven't had a ton of time to dig deep into it, but the first thing that put me off was the developer console only being available as a pop-up window. I prefer it in the same window like Chrome defaults to, but since it is based on Chromium I feel that you could integrate the same options that Chrome has for the Dev Console placement. ^__^
Also, really appreciate asking for feedback! So cool!
@dnuzum Hmmm - what are you seeing loading more quickly? Vivaldi is basically just wrapping the Chrome browser with an impressive UI, so in theory, speeds should be the same as Chrome for loading/rendering (type "chrome://extensions" or "chrome://flags" and you'll see it's just Chrome). Could be the "New Safari seems snappier" effect.
@jrsjrsjrs I'm guessing it's most likely just my extensions list in Chrome. If I were to load them both fresh I'd assume they'd both be pretty similar in load times.
Ok, testing it out. My question is how do you make money giving away a free browser these days? Reason I ask is I wonder how long the project will survive. Should I become mentally invested in it?
@planetmitch We partner with search engines and other affiliate partners such as Ebay or Booking.com for example. We get a portion of the revenue when those services are used and revenue is being made. We believe this model works and have experience with it in my previous company (Opera).
@jonsvt thanks. That makes sense. So far it looks pretty good... tho my 1password chrome extension isn't working.
@planetmitch Good to hear! We are looking to 1password extension issue.
Downloaded and been using heavily for a day or so now - awesome. If Chrome and Opera had a lovechild, it would be this browser.
Love Vivaldi... been using it since it's first public version [way before 1.0] - love it so far... it's my 3rd go to browser and moving up the list slowly but surely ;) hopefully one day will be my Primary one.
but I would love to see Vivaldi trying to innovate beyond the current overall 'look' that most browsers have been doing for the past 12 years [if you look back to Netscape 1.0 and look at browsers today 'sure' the visuals have gotten clearer/cleaner but there is still a huge similarity sadly]...
The only browser that has truly tried to depart from this 'frame of mind' in the last few years is Opera Neon - obviously an early product and not one that everyone like / immediately go for but I'm sure with the team around Vivaldi you guys could come up with the next generation browser... It sure isn't Google Chrome and it's horrible memory bloatness...
Keep up the great work!!!
Love the sleek interface! However one thing that keeps bugging me is the fact that there is a separate field for search, something I just love about Chrome.
Looks very promising - I love that I can tile tabs - this should be really useful when using OSX split view, but you don't seem to support split view?
@gaelle_lo Works out fine for me now after update to 1.1 - great work! Vivaldi - first browser for years that actually feels like an improvement!
Have been using this for a day now, and have set as default browser, as I'm feeling confident. I don't think i can come back from side tabs - great work!
I use Vivaldi 1.4 on all of my Linux machines and it works great. It is very fast and pleasant to browse the Internet with, so my upvote is a must, as a simple way to say thank you for making my Internet "faster" ;)
@sushubh Your request is noted. I've seen this requested before and it's now on our To do list.
I love Vivaldi. Been using it for as long as I can remember as a speed tester. I just wish I wasn't a slave to the chrome extensions.
Congrats on the Vivaldi on the Version 1.0 launch! It's great see new companies launch in this space.
@conradegusa Is it a new company? I was under the impression that this was Opera rebranded.
Edit: or perhaps it was just some of the team.
@gaelle_lo downloaded yesterday. So far so good. A little zippier than the alpha. Getting it to work was huge. I will let you know how it goes.
Congratulations on the first release.
Vivaldi looks quite promissing. My first impressions are quite positive: clean and simple user interface, fast (!!!), awesome custom font rendering (hello, chrome!), extremely configurable. Great job done.
The only thing making me upset is the fact I can't hide the side panel where bookmarks, notes and downloads are placed. I can only move it from left to right and opposite. No way just to hide it?
Hope Vivaldi will be good enough to make me migrate to it from Chrome.
Have just found another confusing lack of a feature: there is no way to dock the developer tool to the bottom of the page, it always acts like a popup window. Guys, this is something you should address FIRST!
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